Quote:61.9 Questioner: This brings out the point of the purpose of the physical incarnation, I believe. And that is to reach a conviction through your own thought processes as to a solution to problems and understandings in a totally free situation with no proof at all or anything that you would consider proof, proof being a very poor word in itself. Can you expand on my concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Your opinion is an eloquent one although somewhat confused in its connections between the freedom expressed by subjective knowing and the freedom expressed by subjective acceptance. There is a significant distinction between the two.

This is not a dimension of knowing, even subjectively, due to the lack of overview of cosmic and other in-pourings which affect each and every situation which produces catalyst. The subjective acceptance of that which is at the moment and the finding of love within that moment is the greater freedom.

That known as the subjective knowing without proof is, in some degree, a poor friend for there will be anomalies no matter how much information is garnered due to the distortions which form third-density.

(04-24-2012, 09:02 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Hello Miss Marie

Certainly, whatever you have discovered is beneficial for you at this particular time. Explore and embrace what is being applied this moment. Thoughts of what is possible and what can be achieved create who you are, right now. Don't fear ever being able to release fear . There is a time and a season for everything, enjoy the weather.

(04-24-2012, 09:04 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Hi missmarie,

I don't know how much, if any, of the Ra material you have read, but there is a question/answer that explores the difference between knowing and acceptance that you might find helpful:

Quote:61.9 Questioner: This brings out the point of the purpose of the physical incarnation, I believe. And that is to reach a conviction through your own thought processes as to a solution to problems and understandings in a totally free situation with no proof at all or anything that you would consider proof, proof being a very poor word in itself. Can you expand on my concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Your opinion is an eloquent one although somewhat confused in its connections between the freedom expressed by subjective knowing and the freedom expressed by subjective acceptance. There is a significant distinction between the two.

This is not a dimension of knowing, even subjectively, due to the lack of overview of cosmic and other in-pourings which affect each and every situation which produces catalyst. The subjective acceptance of that which is at the moment and the finding of love within that moment is the greater freedom.

That known as the subjective knowing without proof is, in some degree, a poor friend for there will be anomalies no matter how much information is garnered due to the distortions which form third-density.

(04-24-2012, 09:25 AM)TheEternal Wrote: Hello there, I am glad you have found your way here. I would first like to note that everything is very much "in process", and it is not unusual in the least for one to feel nervous and have some fear. In fact, at this point in time, I'd say it's almost expected. As the veil melts away more and more, individuals are going to be opening up to a greater degree of their awareness and with this the awareness of their shadow selves. Many people will be learning to face their shadow selves at this time, which can manifest especially as an anxiety about "what am I doing? Who I am? Where am I?" as one grapples with the body of their doubts and beliefs.

One technique comes in to my mind, that really I share with virtually everyone, and that is to spend some time meditating upon your heartbeat. Connect with it, its pulse, its movement, its sound if you can, and just absorb yourself in to your heartbeat. I hope that hopes, I wish you well, blessings.

(04-24-2012, 08:54 AM)missmarie Wrote: hi all!

first post! really excited to find a forum where i can find information and also ask questions.

i feel like i've been obsessed with finding out as much spiritual information as possible. i am at a point where i know what i need to do based on the information i've gathered. my problem is, even though i KNOW quite a bit for someone who just woke up a year ago, i still feel frustrated that i cannot seem to break completely free of fear. i understand MANY crazy things are happening in our world, and i even understand why. but i still feel very alone and nervous even though i know, in the end, a better world is possible and coming.

are there any easy techniques that you know of, or inspirational things i could read that may help?

thanks very much!

ex oh.
marie

(04-25-2012, 10:26 AM)Icaro Wrote: As I see it, everything comes down to a simple choice. You either believe all kinds of bad things are going to happen, or you have the faith to know that they aren't. We're in for a difficult transition, I agree with that, and certain chess pieces are being moved around, but the idea that somehow the collective is just going to roll over underestimates the human spirit.

Quote:The collective is just lazy right now (much like myself), and eventually they'll get fed up and start creating real change. Is the collective lazy because I'm lazy? It must be. I'm not as active as I'd like to be, but I'm trying to change that.

(04-26-2012, 09:14 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: The way I see it, the "things" are going to happen regardless of how much faith you have. Labeling them as "bad" will have you receive a bad effect, while labeling them as "useful" will result in a useful effect.

Quote:I think you're touching on an aspect of "societal synchronicity." I believe that those who are "lazy" (to no fault, of course) will be met with others within society who are similarly lazy, and have a general societal view of laziness.

(04-24-2012, 08:30 PM)TheEternal Wrote: I think your last sentence there pretty much summed up all I might say.

I understand the fears of the government and the way things are going in a publicized way. On the other hand, the planet is more filled with Light than it has been for thousands of years, so I think we can all afford a nice pat on the back. Lots to go, but we must forget our bravery for walking the path to reach here.

As for the "off-grid" thing, I would contend it would be more applicable to consider that in light of the intention. I'm sure the reason you want to do that isn't necessarily just because of your fears but also because of interest in the life-style. There is no wrong path, each situation in life may be seen for the service within.

(04-25-2012, 02:03 AM)Gribbons Wrote: Ok, Hi Marie. Love to chat with you.

If you feel like you want to dump negativity, don't feel like a soldier. Soldier's take orders. There's a soldier in me too, but it responds to me, or those I really respect, but know what your values are before you define what it is you think you respect, which, for instance, in the military, is very fear-based and hierarchical.

Know your belief systems. A lot of people on here will testify that for a long time they sorted themselves out by living through the treachery of "living two lives" or "living in two worlds," where "the world of ideas, and the world of the conventional... clashed" (Plenum http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=4126 )

I've heard about all of this since '09, and only recently have I felt really good that what I've been learning was worth it. I'm glad you're here, and, at times, things will be strenuous to you, but rest assured, from experience, it's literally your brain adapting to the new light, new neural pathways being created to this concept that is being suppressed in nearly all areas of mainstream society. That's why personal intuition and discernment are highly encouraged here. Ra and Q'uo always say, whatever doesn't resonate with you, let roll off your back like water off a duck... or something along those lines.

I'd be glad to talk with you more personally or in-depth, if you so desire, on this thread or PM. All's well. Welcome to Bring4th.

(04-25-2012, 02:35 AM)Sagittarius Wrote:

(04-24-2012, 08:54 AM)missmarie Wrote: hi all!

first post! really excited to find a forum where i can find information and also ask questions.

i feel like i've been obsessed with finding out as much spiritual information as possible. i am at a point where i know what i need to do based on the information i've gathered. my problem is, even though i KNOW quite a bit for someone who just woke up a year ago, i still feel frustrated that i cannot seem to break completely free of fear. i understand MANY crazy things are happening in our world, and i even understand why. but i still feel very alone and nervous even though i know, in the end, a better world is possible and coming.

are there any easy techniques that you know of, or inspirational things i could read that may help?

thanks very much!

ex oh.
marie

I recognise what you described and for me it was a significant phase I went through. Only time will mend it, you planned for yourself to go through this stage of awakening at this specific time.

Be alert and listen to your intuition, you will work it out for yourself. Imo it is simply the integration of all you have learnt into your being. The old you won't leave without a fight. There are dark times leading up to the light, it is only natural and once it is over with you will feel better.

Oh also nice choice in music, keep listening to Maynard he almost does the work for you. Have a listen to the bands Karnivool and Floating Me. Both are very similar to tool.

(04-24-2012, 08:54 AM)missmarie Wrote: hi all!

first post! really excited to find a forum where i can find information and also ask questions.

i feel like i've been obsessed with finding out as much spiritual information as possible. i am at a point where i know what i need to do based on the information i've gathered. my problem is, even though i KNOW quite a bit for someone who just woke up a year ago, i still feel frustrated that i cannot seem to break completely free of fear. i understand MANY crazy things are happening in our world, and i even understand why. but i still feel very alone and nervous even though i know, in the end, a better world is possible and coming.

are there any easy techniques that you know of, or inspirational things i could read that may help?

thanks very much!

ex oh.
marie