08-30-2021, 09:49 AM
(08-29-2021, 09:21 PM)unity100 Wrote: Amazingly some research showed that science, proof based counter arguments seem to be more effective than thought before. However even when someone finds out the actual reality of something that goes against a conspiracy theory, s/he would still find it very difficult to go against the social group and openly advocate the truth. So these groups enforce conformity no different than how religious groups did throughout history - you violate even one creed, you are outcast. Like how they somewhat turned against Trump just because Trump suggested that 'maybe' they should get vaccinated.
Humm that is interesting. I was convinced that science had become a dirty word for them. But how is this process supposed to take place if they do not trust the data that is presented?
(08-29-2021, 09:21 PM)unity100 Wrote: Schizophrenia angle is also very interesting - because schizophrenia seems to manifest differently in different cultures. For example, whereas in US, schizoprhenics generally report 'hearing things' or 'people' telling them to do this criminal act, harm this other person, or this other person is out to get you, 'something is afoot', 'they are after you' etc etc, schizophrenics in India in the same research in general reported hearing voices telling them to 'do your homework', 'call your mother', 'why arent you calling your relatives', 'you are irresponsable', 'study harder', 'why are you neglecting cleaning' and so on.
This is an interesting bit because such effects of schizhophrenia may be different from country to country, and if anything like extended marijuana usage is causing such effects, the effects could be greatly different from culture to culture. The 'hostile' atmosphere of US may be causing 'hostile' experiences, for example.
These tangents may have very interesting implications in explaining the origin of things, however that's a large topic.
I was not aware of this much difference based on where people live, but I must admit that even here in Canada there are significant differences with our very close friends of the USA.
(08-29-2021, 09:21 PM)unity100 Wrote: Beliefs do not change the results of actions. The material says that even unborn babies who are attached to the fetus in the mother's womb are responsible with every single thought and action they take in that unborn state.
And really, lets put it in street speak: If one of those people caused someone you love, someone dear to you die by getting them infected, what difference would what they believed 'in their heart' would make. The deed is done, and the doer is responsible with the deed.
It does not change the result. Yes people will die and hospitals will fill up. I think it does affect the attached Karma though. If someone deeply believe they are being altruistic and helping save people by sharing information about vaccine induced zombification, I think this has important implications on Karma.
After all, we come here to be thoroughly confused and so what matters is not so much what is "real", but rather what we do based on our beliefs.
(08-29-2021, 09:21 PM)unity100 Wrote: From that, what i can say is that these people are simply wrong, and their belief in these things are exactly like the beliefs of people in religions and their need to protect their faith or their status in their social group through these religions, which can easily cause great harm to the society until prevented explicitly.
I have been told that my belief in science will cause great harm to society, even that I will be tried for crimes against humanity (if I survive having been vaccinated).
But for me, none of this matters. It's all illusion. What matters is how we interact with each others, how we love people no matter what. I love those that believe I am losing my soul. I love you Unity who like me have a preference for rational thinking and evidence-based data. But above all I am making the choice to love no matter what. I also love those who think this makes me a crazy lunatic.