Are you going to take the vaccine?

[Patrick]

We don't need to rely on the MSM as the source of our data.

But mostly I am interested in observations per se.

Because the obvious elephant in the room is that we all see what we want to see.

So for example, those convinced that they would see a difference in people after vaccination will find things to notice.

I am interested in following observations and data to their source and so that is what I do.

I even directly communicate with doctors and researchers.

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Anyway, it has been demonstrated multiple times in this thread that there is no real interest in having a proper debate. I tried multiple times.

I have been participating in this thread because I saw a lot of people being alarmed and wanting to share what they found alarming and figured it would be worth bringing a more balanced viewpoint. Wanting to reassure. The end result is plastered all over this thread.

Since there is no interest in being reassured and there seems even to be a liking to remain in this state of feeling alarmed. Maybe people want 4D to arrive so bad, that they don't care how it happens? Any disruption is good because finally something is moving? So there is invigoration in crisis?

In the end, this whole thing really is a faith based debate. I have no problems with that. But I would simply suggest that we all drop the pretense of working with facts, observations or data. And instead discuss this crisis and vaccination from the point of view of Confederation material.