04-17-2021, 02:45 PM
(03-26-2021, 10:40 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: I doubt there's any government that has the best interests of it people at heart.
There are many governments in the world which try to protect and prosper their people. The bad experience of the people in Angloamerican countries with their sociopathic governments is a result of their own doing. What did they expect to happen after becoming enemies of their own government and letting those who want to dismantle the government take over the government for their own profit.
Government is a car. It goes in the direction of the driver who drives it. If you let the wheel go and allow it to be taken over by sociopaths, you end up getting driven off of a cliff.
(03-28-2021, 09:26 AM)zedro Wrote: Fun Fact: the CEO of Phizer was barred from entering Isreal because he has not been vaccinated. Of course the claim was that other people needed it more....this doesn't apply to his money tho
That's false information. That is a lie. The Pfizer CEO did not go to Israel because he did not receive his second jab yet, and he thought that the level of vaccination in Israel was not high enough so it would constitute a risk for him.
Why did you buy into a lie which you just saw someone repeating on internet. Did you do any actual research. Did you not know that Pfizer ceo received his first jab.
(03-28-2021, 08:03 PM)zedro Wrote: Why did some people so obviously get a fake shot on video for all to see when they were promoting it's use, instead of just getting saline? I believe its because hints are being dropped everywhere, consciously or not, and then there's the karmic/deception issues. That's why there's never any smoking gun for anything, it's all an accumulation of small events, statements, patterns, synchros...like a hint in the video game or a glitch in the matrix....is it a bug, or a feature?
Nobody 'obviously' got a fake shot. Who decides it was 'obvious'. Where is the actual proof of falsity. 'Saline'. What the hell is that.
Here in Spain, the rich jumped queues, spent money, even went abroad to receive vaccines. So much that for weeks there was much criticism of many such prominent personas everywhere.
(04-01-2021, 06:42 PM)Spaced Wrote:(04-01-2021, 05:12 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: If an authority tells you that this is an emergency authorization, space, for what reason would you think they had your or anyone else s best interest at heart?
I also see no reason to assume every government is on the same page, and yet all governments are taking this seriously. Why would Cuba, Iran, China, etc. play along with a plot hatched by their political opponents? If anything, the telling thing to me is the reaction in those countries compared to US aligned ones, they've done a way better job of handling it. If the ever shadowy "they" wanted to prolong this situation to maximize the transfer of wealth, what better way than to sow distrust of the actual solution. I have yet to see any solution offered by the anti-vaccine folks other than to pretend the virus isn't real, and what does that accomplish?
I remain unconvinced as well that the majority of the international scientific community are all in on this conspiracy and that people who watched a video on the internet or read an article on a dubious news site know more than them.
Jackpot.
(04-07-2021, 01:10 PM)Diana Wrote: I think in the long run that humanity will change as a collective as slowly or quickly as it will—it will be what it will be.
The change is already happening. A situation (covid) is bringing the people the results of their actions, in which some choose to cooperate to protect their society and themselves from consequences, whereas some choose to ignore reality, manufacture their own, engage in self centered acts, even going as far to do it for maximizing their own personal gain at the cost of people's lives, and ending up killing themselves and those around them, inflicting great damage to their own society.
And im not talking about 'the establishment' when i talk about people who damage others for their personal gain. Im talking about the likes of the people like the restaurant/shop owners in Florida who propagate falsities, and who pressure their elected representatives to force open the society to 'protect the economy' (read: my profits). Ending up killing themselves or their loved ones or random people in their society.
Whereas countries like China, Korea, Vietnam mobilized to prevent even one single old person from dying, people like the above mobilized to forfeit anyone and everyone for the sake of their own meager self gain. Killing people in the process.
Now...
This covid is just a specific event...
Every day small selfishness causes such damage to the society of those who do such things. From people dying from lack of healthcare to being homeless, from people not being able to get education due to cost of privatized education and remaining ignorant to infrastructure collapsing.
The people's small choices and actions are shaping their own society and their own reality with every passing day. One little act at a time. Creating a new reality.
Where one group of people incrementally destroy their own society for their own gain, another group takes care of everyone and the society itself.
Who would end up prospering and entering a new reality in the long run? Those who actually destroy themselves and eventually disappear? Or those who are of healthy society?
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And this is without the fact that pandemics are not a new thing, and they will keep happening just like they happened throughout human history. A stronger pandemic would kill more people in the societies who act selfishly whereas killing less people in societies that act responsibly. That's a reason why WHO warns the next pandemic will be worse, because this light pandemic demonstrated that parts of the world were not only totally unprepared to handle a pandemic, but they did not even care. What would happen with a more serious pandemic, like a more virulent ebola, do you think...
So yes. Everything is already changing. In front of our eyes.
Quote:And why get vaccinated against something that is 99%+ survivable?
To not get random organ damage like 20% hearing loss or a percentage damage in a more vital organ, or in worse cases, not having to learn to walk and talk again.
(04-17-2021, 08:45 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: The TEch bois have the same or even stronger lawsuit immunity via 230, in the US of A.
Are people still using and paying twitter/facebook even though they have begun suppressing 100 million voters?
There is no such immunity in tech like there is immunity for vaccine producers. You are making up stuff.
And the 'immunity' you seem to be referring to seems to be freedom of speech in US constitution. Which gives any private corporation to reject service to anyone on any ground.
Also, if you are going to pay for the damages from class action lawsuits which would be filed by who gets impacted by the false propositions and hate which those '100 million voters' (apparently nobody else from far right conservatives vote), then be their guest - tell them you are going to pay for the damages so Facebook et al can reinstate the accounts of those who raid capitols half naked.
(04-17-2021, 02:05 PM)Patrick Wrote: So that is unprecedented. Imagine if suddenly all the Tylenols in the world turns bad because they changed the formula to save a couple fraction of a cent on each bottles and then that kills 25% of users, this would not go unnoticed.
Of course, all they have to do after that is start another big pharma under a different name and they're good to go as new.
Happens frequently in US thanks to deregulated free market. Doesnt happen in Europe or Japan.
Again, just like what i described in the early parts of this post, American people are living the reality they created. They complain about sociopathic corporations after creating an environment which breeds sociopathic corporations and allows them to do whatever...