Are you going to take the vaccine?

[Diana]

Not sure they would get away with it though. For one thing this would ruin their business, since no humans would ever touch their products again.

This is a nice sentiment, but I personally don't see it as realistic. This is just my take on things, and I don't mean to denigrate anyone else's.

I think big business can get away with most everything, considering its ties to government through lobbyists, campaign support, earmarks, etc. I speak of the US.

In the case of the US pharmaceutical companies, they get away with enormous amount of harm. They cover their butts with inserts written in 2-point type of "possible" contraindications and warnings laced with legal jargon. After many decades of manufacturing meds that may have begun at some time in the past as legitimate offerings for healing by STO scientists and medical researchers, the pharmaceutical companies have pushed their products even when they cause more harm than good. This is not paranoia speaking, but observation. I have even seen diseases being manufactured first and then the cure maybe two years later after the ads have done their work in establishing a problem, such as various types of depression. This is just business practice that utilized advertising—the "conspiracy" doesn't have to go any further than sheer greed. 

No matter how much good will individuals may have in these systems, there just is no getting around the corruption of pharmaceutical companies, research labs, and even university research, due to profit at any cost. If anyone thinks the universities are pure at heart, just think of how profit-motivated they are, and the cost of going to college, the books, and the policies, and how many young people are crippled financially because of student loans—universities are big business. One can't pretend this corruption doesn't exist.

Personally, I don't think I can make the world a good place by thinking it's all good and positive. If pharmaceutical companies are corrupt, how will me thinking they aren't change that? The adept according to Ra becomes disassociated with the human drama, not by wishing and trying to make governments or businesses something they are not, but rather by accepting it all as it is.

I see both sides of the vaccine argument, and as I have said before, I take no side. I agree with many here that it is a personal decision. Another instance where a similar decision might be made is in what food to eat. Do you buy food that has been sprayed with insecticides manufactured by Monsanto (now owned by Bayer), and their claims that the insecticides are safe? Does anyone here think that the owners of Monsanto had the welfare of people at heart (or for that matter all the life forms affected by their chemicals, including the so-important bee population)? They may have had the desire to solve problems of food manufacturing, but whatever their purposes were, they pursued them at any cost to the health of the planet and life.