Life has no meaning

[upensmoke]

I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

[Minyatur]

I think the meaning of life is existence and infinity. Not something that you need to give, just what is happening. 

There is one dreamer with his infinite dream.

[upensmoke]

I think the meaning of life is existence and infinity. Not something that you need to give, just what is happening. 

There is one dreamer with his infinite dream.

is your thinking that the meaning of life is existence and infinity, the same as giving life a meaning? I agree that existence and infinity may be are states of being, but why would that have any meaning? when i say is there is no meaning in anything its not bad, its just the truth or the way things are. Also i only used to think you had to give life a meaning and that was because there was none in the first place. I was foolish if there was none in the first place me giving it one doesn't change its original state

The one dreamer with his one infinite meaningless dream.

[AnthroHeart]

Bashar I believe also said that life has no inherent meaning.

I don't think anything is lost because of this. Reality itself is symbolic.

[anagogy]

I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

What is meaning?

Interesting that only conscious beings can ascribe "meanings" to things. The most true thing you can say, as consciousness, is "I am". "I exist". "I am aware that I exist". So in a sense, you could say that we are meaning itself.

The purpose of life is to live. The purpose of existence is to exist. Things don't have to be complicated. You might ask yourself, what is this thing called happiness or well being, and why do I crave it? Plenty of interesting fodder for thought in regards to meaning in that line of questioning.

[Minyatur]

I think the meaning of life is existence and infinity. Not something that you need to give, just what is happening. 

There is one dreamer with his infinite dream.

is your thinking that the meaning of life is existence and infinity, the same as giving life a meaning? I agree that existence and infinity may be are states of being, but why would that have any meaning? when i say is there is no meaning in anything its not bad, its just the truth or the way things are. Also i only used to think you had to give life a meaning was because there was none in the first place. I was foolish

The one dreamer with his one infinite meaningless dream.

I don't think life needs a meaning, I think it is existence being explored as an alternative to infinite nothingness and as such the prime meaning would be for there to not be nothing.

The meaning : to know ourselves, to grow infinitely in awareness, to explore and create greater and greater glory and create greater intelligence within infinity.

Would nothingness have been well enough? Perhaps but it seems it wasn't in any way satisfactory.

[Parsons]

(To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

[AnthroHeart]

So do you think that some of the connectedness of unity comes through the veil? Or are we 100% separated from each other?

[Plenum]

i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

don't forget, every life has an incarnational plan.  

we incarnated to learn certain things, and those things we learn through the experience.

Just because we can't see our lessons, doesn't mean that they aren't in place.

[Bring4th_Austin]

Isn't the fact that we, as conscious entities, give life meaning proof that life has meaning? We are not separate from life or the universe. We are life, we are the universe, we are the Creator. Us giving life meaning is innate in the system. If you remove the entity attributing meaning to life, then sure, meaning disappears. But you cannot remove yourself from this moment, you cannot stop meaning from being attributed. It has happened, is happening, and will happen, and so it must be innate.

[Aion]

I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

[Minyatur]

I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

Reach higher and higher.

[AnthroHeart]

I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

Reach higher and higher.

I get disoriented if I rise too quickly. Feel dizzy and all that. It's how I react to intelligent energy.

[Minyatur]

I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

Reach higher and higher.

I get disoriented if I rise too quickly. Feel dizzy and all that. It's how I react to intelligent energy.

It takes time and there is no top. Take your time and learn to appreciate and enjoy the trip. 

When ascend, we'll see greater and greater wonders.

[Aion]

Another other possibility is that there is infinite meaning.

[Karl]

I agree life is pointless and devoid of purpose. I just do things because the alternative of doing nothing seems boring.

[Cyclops]

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the ways of love.

33.6 Questioner: Thank you. I was wondering if there is a programming of experiences that causes an individual to get certain catalyst in his daily life. For instance, as we go through our daily life there are many things that we can experience. We look at these experiences as occurring by pure chance or by a conscious design of ours, like making appointments or going places. I was just wondering if there was a behind-the-scenes, I might call it, programming of catalyst to create the necessary experiences for more rapid growth in the case of some entities. Is this… Does this happen?

Ra: I am Ra. We believe we grasp the heart of your query. Please request further information if we are not correct.

The incarnating entity which has become conscious of the incarnative process and thus programs its own experience may choose the amount of catalyst or, to phrase this differently, the number of lessons which it will undertake to experience and to learn from in one incarnation. This does not mean that all is predestined, but rather that there are invisible guidelines shaping events which will function according to this programming. Thus if one opportunity is missed another will appear until the, shall we say, student of the life experience grasps that a lesson is being offered and undertakes to learn it.

Ra: I am Ra. This is the plan of the One Infinite Creator. The One Original Thought is the harvest of all previous, if you would use this term, experience of the Creator by the Creator. As It decides to know Itself It generates Itself into that plenum, full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space. Each generation of this knowing begets a knowing which has the capacity, through free will, to choose methods of knowing Itself. Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. This is for the purpose of refinement of the one original thought. The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

What if the absence of meaning, IS the meaning of life?

What's the Point IS the Point.

What comes next?

You're free.  Do as you will, there is no point, meaning, purpose beyond your desires.  Discover your most subtle true desires.  And approach them, everything else is pointless until you assign reason to it.  And even then, it my just be a lesson to help you understand.  There is no point. All leads back to the same place infinitely.  How can there be any point on a fixed amorphous (changing) path?

Or more so its better to say, the meaning of life is to understand why there is no meaning to life, and yet it still intelligently exists, evolves, changes, becomes and begets.

You already created your future, now you're just living it in.the past as if it were present because they're all happening at the same time.

So what is your...  Point for living?  Maybe that is the answer to the question of Why to the answer of The Point is that there is no point.

[Stranger]

I am genuinely puzzled by the statements that life has no meaning. What is "meaning", first of all? To me, meaning in life is a greater purpose than just surviving until it's over, a goal making progress toward is inherently rewarding. Is that not how you see it? In that case, life is inherently meaningful - the purpose being to overcome the limitations of material existence in order to grow spiritually, to learn to radiate love and light even in the most challenging circumstances, and to make progress toward a joyful reunification with the Creator of All That Is, which is our true identity. How is that not purpose or meaning?

[Manjushri]

I realized that life has no meaning.

One time I realized that life does have meaning.

What does that mean?

OPINION
noun
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

REALIZE
verb
become fully aware of (something) as a fact; understand clearly.

FACT
noun
a thing that is indisputably the case.

[Matt1]

Well sounds like its a case of creating your own reality.

[upensmoke]

I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

What is meaning?

Interesting that only conscious beings can ascribe "meanings" to things.  The most true thing you can say, as consciousness, is "I am". "I exist".  "I am aware that I exist".  So in a sense, you could say that we are meaning itself.

The purpose of life is to live.  The purpose of existence is to exist.  Things don't have to be complicated.  You might ask yourself, what is this thing called happiness or well being, and why do I crave it?  Plenty of interesting fodder for thought in regards to meaning in that line of questioning.

 if i could find meaning in life it would be a simple, "to be or not to be", or as you put it "I Am", or even "We Are". The point of existing being to exist is kinda what lead me to discover that their is no point. I don't know how to explain the paradox better than 

"no matter what you do it has meaning, so no matter what you do it has no meaning" if the point is to exist no matter what you do your contributing to the point, so there is no point in doing anything. Also I'm not saying one should do nothing, just that their is no meaning or point in doing anything. Also meaning is just like purpose to me.

[upensmoke]

(To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

[upensmoke]

Isn't the fact that we, as conscious entities, give life meaning proof that life has meaning? We are not separate from life or the universe. We are life, we are the universe, we are the Creator. Us giving life meaning is innate in the system. If you remove the entity attributing meaning to life, then sure, meaning disappears. But you cannot remove yourself from this moment, you cannot stop meaning from being attributed. It has happened, is happening, and will happen, and so it must be innate.

I understand what your saying somewhat, but where i fall apart is on the idea that we have to give it meaning. If the universe had a meaning then we wouldn't have to give it one in the first place. It does fine without meaning so there is no need to give it one. if i have to give life a meaning, isn't that a distortion ? isn't meaning itself a distortion. ?

[upensmoke]

I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

What if the absence of meaning, IS the meaning of life?

What's the Point IS the Point.

What comes next?

You're free.  Do as you will, there is no point, meaning, purpose beyond your desires.  Discover your most subtle true desires.  And approach them, everything else is pointless until you assign reason to it.  And even then, it my just be a lesson to help you understand.  There is no point. All leads back to the same place infinitely.  How can there be any point on a fixed amorphous (changing) path?

Or more so its better to say, the meaning of life is to understand why there is no meaning to life, and yet it still intelligently exists, evolves, changes, becomes and begets.

You already created your future, now you're just living it in.the past as if it were present because they're all happening at the same time.

So what is your...  Point for living?  Maybe that is the answer to the question of Why to the answer of The Point is that there is no point.

I vibe with bold the really well 

Also thank you to everyone who posted, I feel as if I need to contemplate and meditate on what is meaning some more. My perception has definitely been broaden and for that i am grateful

[Minyatur]

(To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

What if instead of saying that whatever you do does not matter, you could say whatever you do or could do would equally matters?

In my view that we can do anything we want is a way to accept that others also do whatever they want. If I'd be hopelessly angry at this Universe and hated everyone and everything, maybe I'd be killing people, not my case but it is the case of others who also are me, as such I know I could be a murderer under the right circumstances. Then we can either see it all as pointless or as meaningful. In some ways others are there only to be different than what we are, and we are to be different than what others are. 

Glory and beauty of many-ness! In which we play each and every role, seeing everything that we can be through us and other versions of us who are different only through their circumstances.

[upensmoke]

(To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

What if instead of saying that whatever you do does not matter, you could say whatever you do or could do would equally matters?

In my view that we can do anything we want is a way to accept that others also do whatever they want. If I'd be hopelessly angry at this Universe and hated everyone and everything, maybe I'd be killing people, not my case but it is the case of others who also are me, as such I know I could be a murderer under the right circumstances. Then we can either see it all as pointless or as meaningful. In some ways others are there only to be different than what we are, and we are to be different than what others are. 

Glory and beauty of many-ness! In which we play each and every role, seeing everything that we can be through us and other versions of us who are different only through their circumstances.

if everything matters equally its the same as saying everything matters, if everything matters its the same as saying nothing matters. do you agree ?

 

[Minyatur]

(To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

What if instead of saying that whatever you do does not matter, you could say whatever you do or could do would equally matters?

In my view that we can do anything we want is a way to accept that others also do whatever they want. If I'd be hopelessly angry at this Universe and hated everyone and everything, maybe I'd be killing people, not my case but it is the case of others who also are me, as such I know I could be a murderer under the right circumstances. Then we can either see it all as pointless or as meaningful. In some ways others are there only to be different than what we are, and we are to be different than what others are. 

Glory and beauty of many-ness! In which we play each and every role, seeing everything that we can be through us and other versions of us who are different only through their circumstances.

if everything matters equally its the same as saying everything matters, if everything matters its the same as saying nothing matters. do you agree ?

 

Well it's question of perspective. Question is, what will be the end perspective, that it matters or that it matters not? 

I tend to think every being in Creation will come to think it does matter through their evolution. I like the saying "All is well". It's not just that things are, it's that they also are well.

[AnthroHeart]

Infinity has no meaning.

[Minyatur]

Infinity has no meaning.

Or like Aion said, infinite meaning.