(09-30-2015, 04:03 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: I think the meaning of life is existence and infinity. Not something that you need to give, just what is happening. 

There is one dreamer with his infinite dream.

(09-30-2015, 03:52 PM)upensmoke Wrote: I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

(09-30-2015, 04:17 PM)upensmoke Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 04:03 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: I think the meaning of life is existence and infinity. Not something that you need to give, just what is happening. 

There is one dreamer with his infinite dream.

is your thinking that the meaning of life is existence and infinity, the same as giving life a meaning? I agree that existence and infinity may be are states of being, but why would that have any meaning? when i say is there is no meaning in anything its not bad, its just the truth or the way things are. Also i only used to think you had to give life a meaning was because there was none in the first place. I was foolish

The one dreamer with his one infinite meaningless dream.

(09-30-2015, 03:52 PM)upensmoke Wrote: i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

(09-30-2015, 07:38 PM)Aion Wrote: I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

(09-30-2015, 08:35 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 07:38 PM)Aion Wrote: I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

Reach higher and higher.

(09-30-2015, 08:44 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 08:35 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 07:38 PM)Aion Wrote: I ask myself, what does life mean to do?

Reach higher and higher.

I get disoriented if I rise too quickly. Feel dizzy and all that. It's how I react to intelligent energy.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the ways of love.

Quote:33.6 Questioner: Thank you. I was wondering if there is a programming of experiences that causes an individual to get certain catalyst in his daily life. For instance, as we go through our daily life there are many things that we can experience. We look at these experiences as occurring by pure chance or by a conscious design of ours, like making appointments or going places. I was just wondering if there was a behind-the-scenes, I might call it, programming of catalyst to create the necessary experiences for more rapid growth in the case of some entities. Is this… Does this happen?

Ra: I am Ra. We believe we grasp the heart of your query. Please request further information if we are not correct.

The incarnating entity which has become conscious of the incarnative process and thus programs its own experience may choose the amount of catalyst or, to phrase this differently, the number of lessons which it will undertake to experience and to learn from in one incarnation. This does not mean that all is predestined, but rather that there are invisible guidelines shaping events which will function according to this programming. Thus if one opportunity is missed another will appear until the, shall we say, student of the life experience grasps that a lesson is being offered and undertakes to learn it.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This is the plan of the One Infinite Creator. The One Original Thought is the harvest of all previous, if you would use this term, experience of the Creator by the Creator. As It decides to know Itself It generates Itself into that plenum, full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space. Each generation of this knowing begets a knowing which has the capacity, through free will, to choose methods of knowing Itself. Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. This is for the purpose of refinement of the one original thought. The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself.

(09-30-2015, 03:52 PM)upensmoke Wrote: I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

(09-30-2015, 03:52 PM)upensmoke Wrote: I realized that life has no meaning.

(09-30-2015, 04:20 PM)anagogy Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 03:52 PM)upensmoke Wrote: I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

What is meaning?

Interesting that only conscious beings can ascribe "meanings" to things.  The most true thing you can say, as consciousness, is "I am". "I exist".  "I am aware that I exist".  So in a sense, you could say that we are meaning itself.

The purpose of life is to live.  The purpose of existence is to exist.  Things don't have to be complicated.  You might ask yourself, what is this thing called happiness or well being, and why do I crave it?  Plenty of interesting fodder for thought in regards to meaning in that line of questioning.

(09-30-2015, 05:54 PM)Parsons Wrote: (To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

(09-30-2015, 07:23 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Isn't the fact that we, as conscious entities, give life meaning proof that life has meaning? We are not separate from life or the universe. We are life, we are the universe, we are the Creator. Us giving life meaning is innate in the system. If you remove the entity attributing meaning to life, then sure, meaning disappears. But you cannot remove yourself from this moment, you cannot stop meaning from being attributed. It has happened, is happening, and will happen, and so it must be innate.

(10-01-2015, 04:23 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 03:52 PM)upensmoke Wrote: I got extremely upset two days ago and in my rage i had an insightful break thru. I realized that life has no meaning. To elaborate I use to think that the meaning of life, was whatever meaning the individual decided to give it, but from my break thru i learned that if an individual has to give life a meaning, than therefore it never had one in the first place. Its true form is meaningless.  So in truth life has no meaning life is all about the experience, but it has no meaning

Thoughts and opinions are always welcome

What if the absence of meaning, IS the meaning of life?

What's the Point IS the Point.

What comes next?

You're free.  Do as you will, there is no point, meaning, purpose beyond your desires.  Discover your most subtle true desires.  And approach them, everything else is pointless until you assign reason to it.  And even then, it my just be a lesson to help you understand.  There is no point. All leads back to the same place infinitely.  How can there be any point on a fixed amorphous (changing) path?

Or more so its better to say, the meaning of life is to understand why there is no meaning to life, and yet it still intelligently exists, evolves, changes, becomes and begets.

You already created your future, now you're just living it in.the past as if it were present because they're all happening at the same time.

So what is your...  Point for living?  Maybe that is the answer to the question of Why to the answer of The Point is that there is no point.

(10-02-2015, 10:37 AM)upensmoke Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 05:54 PM)Parsons Wrote: (To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

(10-02-2015, 12:00 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 10:37 AM)upensmoke Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 05:54 PM)Parsons Wrote: (To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

What if instead of saying that whatever you do does not matter, you could say whatever you do or could do would equally matters?

In my view that we can do anything we want is a way to accept that others also do whatever they want. If I'd be hopelessly angry at this Universe and hated everyone and everything, maybe I'd be killing people, not my case but it is the case of others who also are me, as such I know I could be a murderer under the right circumstances. Then we can either see it all as pointless or as meaningful. In some ways others are there only to be different than what we are, and we are to be different than what others are. 

Glory and beauty of many-ness! In which we play each and every role, seeing everything that we can be through us and other versions of us who are different only through their circumstances.

(10-02-2015, 12:28 PM)upensmoke Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 12:00 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:

(10-02-2015, 10:37 AM)upensmoke Wrote:

(09-30-2015, 05:54 PM)Parsons Wrote: (To me) In essence, life has no meaning besides what we ascribe to it. However, if I go back to the Creator after It became self aware but before free will was invented, it was alone. It was alone in a way that is hard to comprehend: it was the only entity that has ever existed or will ever exist. It split itself into multiple personalities with free will so it would not be alone and have experiences. You and I are these personalities...

And with that reasoning, I feel that my life and anyone's life is extremely important no matter what we choose to do and what meaning we ascribe to it.

So continue to keep Yourself company.

I agree with the bold part tremendously and that's why i came to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose. It doesn't matter what we do, none of it matters, and like i said earlier its not bad, its just the state of things.  Also when i say this i don't mean that entities should stop living and stop experiencing things, its just that no matter what happens it doesn't matter. 

What if instead of saying that whatever you do does not matter, you could say whatever you do or could do would equally matters?

In my view that we can do anything we want is a way to accept that others also do whatever they want. If I'd be hopelessly angry at this Universe and hated everyone and everything, maybe I'd be killing people, not my case but it is the case of others who also are me, as such I know I could be a murderer under the right circumstances. Then we can either see it all as pointless or as meaningful. In some ways others are there only to be different than what we are, and we are to be different than what others are. 

Glory and beauty of many-ness! In which we play each and every role, seeing everything that we can be through us and other versions of us who are different only through their circumstances.

if everything matters equally its the same as saying everything matters, if everything matters its the same as saying nothing matters. do you agree ?

 

(10-02-2015, 12:53 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Infinity has no meaning.