I think Ra might be hiding something

[servant-]

Hello, I have known the Ra material for quite some years and it has helped me alot. I usually don't talk on forums, just observe. But now I felt the urge to make a post as I have encountered info from other sources that contradicts with llresearch info. the material that made me doubt some of the info from here is from the "alien interview" from Roswell crash 1947. to me it seems legit because it has supporting info with knowledge I already know.  

you can read it from the attached file or "watch" the interview from youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClnFAUp...W2A/videos

so a few interesting things came to my attention when reading the interview.
they call souls, themselves and otherselves "IS-BE". IS meaning all that is(god) and BE means being or being in the body for example.
anyway, this alien explains that hes body is not biological, its a doll body. he can exit the body at will and exist as thought form (that's already kind of a big deal if you ask me) not just some alien with limited 3D understanding but someone with understanding of beyond that.

so here is some of the info that made me think that Ra is trying to hide information from us:
1. the alien says that the pyramids were build by the old empire (the NEGATIVE controllers). blocks were carved with highly concentrated light waves and ufos lifting em up & building the pyramids.

here Ra (POSITIVE) claims to have build the pyramid with THOUGHT, which might be very mysterious way of saying the same thing in order to mislead? anyway, if alien is right its suggesting that Ra is part of negative group


2. Ra did not want to touch on the subject of UFOs as it would not be central or important subject. I don't understand hes way of thinking, to me learning about these things motivate me and inspire me to dwell even further into the information and often I end up getting lot of spiritual information on the side. who is he to decide what is important information?  And how do you define important info, as there is infinite time to learn and nothing really matters in the end. why not just give the info if that's what feels important to the questioner, do they judge us by thinking this info is not important to someone, it could open a path for the seeker to travel. he just DODGES the question. like are we not equal to Ra? why cant we have info on certain subjects, information should be open to any who wishes for it. feels like we are some inferior pets or something. this is why we are stuck. (imo)

3. Ok this next one is from Q'uo, he is not giving us info about moon:
S: Certainly. It goes back to the question from last time and the time before which was the question of the size of the moon and the sun being the same size. The first time you did not know the answer. The second time you hadn’t thought any more. And I was asking you if with your various resources you could find that answer and how you went about finding it.

I am Q’uo, and we are aware of your query, my brother. When we attempt to seek for that which we do not know, we look to the heart of our being for that which is important in our seeking. And when it is of great enough importance, then it is that we attempt to become that which we do not know. In this instance we do not seek for the answer for this information, for we feel that it is unimportant and is not central either to our service or our own learning. Rather, we would suggest that instead of being concerned with the external artifacts of the astronomical illusion that you look instead to the sun and the moon of your own inner being.

so hes asking actually about why moon perfectly fits to block the sun when looking here from earth I think. Q'uo claims that he doesn't know!!!
QUESTION DODGED. I've read from many different sources that moon was not originally here and it was brought here, and that it helps with the forced 3D or with keeping souls trapped in earth. its artificial.  

I feel like they focus on knowledge about inner reality but we cant escape the prison planet if we forget our memories every damn time we die and reincarnate!

in that alien interview its said that they shock the soul (after we die) with billions of volts of electricity to reset us, all of our memories, GONE, not just in from earth, but everything you experienced from the infinite past. then comes the hypnotic suggestions to dumb us down.

what if the harvest cycles don't actually exist and they are tricking us, by giving all this otherwise correct info to temporarily help us, until the memory reset. like they are "growing us" like in a farm so they themselves get power by the universal law that you advance the soul by "helping" us over and over again, they don't want us to get out of this prison, because they advance by helping us grow internally and then we get our memories reset and we don't know jack s*** again.
Our higher self keeps our memories, not us. But that higher self is like a god already anyway.



this all came to me when I read through that interview and the end part I "realized" when I wrote all this
I hope you too read the interview, it will make this post much clearer and its an interesting read nonetheless (btw I didn't finish reading it yet, I'm almost at the end but gotta sleep now) and give your thoughts, my thought is that Ra is hiding something!

[Strannik]

I can suggest you new research materials "The Revelations of an Elite Family Insider" https://archive.org/stream/TheRevelation...5_djvu.txt
But remember that knowledge, not backed up by skills, it is only a hindrance on the path of your self development.

[Hilarion]

The first distortion is called the Law of confusion i.e sometimes they have to keep us confused and uncertain to protect our soverignty. Sometimes Ra and other confederation sources only allow themselves to tell us so much because it effects our reality and timelines too much.

I feel like they focus on knowledge about inner reality but we cant escape the prison planet if we forget our memories every damn time we die and reincarnate!

Indeed they do focus on the inner dimensions of the being. From my experience this is how you can take control back within your reality. One thing I took away is that Ra describes how catalyst is allocated according to what they call seniority of vibration. When I look at the 'prison planet' heirarchical type world you have mentioned I see it as an illusion, people who shout the loudest and outsmart others appear to rise to the top. It looks like people are enslaved only because they allow themselves to be. People give up their inner will to lower emotions like fear, anger and jealousy. This prison planet world usually uses your desire for something external to manipulate you. Inner work means completeing yourself from the inside so that you need very little from others to experience great love. When you do Inner work and increase your seniority of vibration more of your life will align synchonistically and obstacles will fall away, negative people will be repelled by your energy. Catalyst will be given to you that helps develop your personality and allows you to learn the law of love.

[mayojojo]

I can suggest you new research materials "The Revelations of an Elite Family Insider" https://archive.org/stream/TheRevelation...5_djvu.txt
But remember that knowledge, not backed up by skills, it is only a hindrance on the path of your self development.

Oh thanks for that, yeah I read it was interesting at first but the "Insider" guy seemed fake and dodged a lot of questions

[Infinite]

There are two types of spiritual visions regarding the Earth: it's a school or a prison. During my seek I already believed it was a prison. But being a prison would mean that God is not fair. Then, after meeting a person with some degree of balancing, he showed me the dialogue with HH. Shortly afterwards I discovered LOO, ironically through a website whose author also believes in the theory of the Earth as a prison.

To be clear: we are in a planetary game. Positivity and negativity have been in conflict for millennia. Negatives are part of the game, not its creators. The modus operandi of negatives is to sow fear and confusion. Because they feed on fear. One way to do this is by creating various conspiracy theories and passing them through confusing channels. Messages of destruction and multidimensional control are Orion's tactics to feed on fear and destabilize channels that seek the STO path. This is something old on the face of the Earth. The ancient prophets spoke of destruction. The truth is that to fear death and the destruction of what is 3D material is to surrender to the feeling of fear, which separates us from our Higher Self.

Allied to Orion's tactics, we have the natural feeling of a veiled entity, which is walking in darkness. Anything will seem frightening to you, just as children are afraid of the boogeyman in the dark. Until we experience the Love and Light of the One, everything can frighten us.

Another detail is that large parts of these conspiracy theories speak of the corrupted Demiurge (Logos) being a tyrant who controls and deceives us. This does not make sense in itself. However, it is easily understandable when we trace the origin of these conspiracy theories: they come from ancient Gnostics. They were against the Demiurge for a simple reason: these Gnostic branches were on the left hand path (service to self) and therefore didn't wish to unite to the Creator. They feared that by uniting the Creator they would lose their egos and therefore be annihilated. So they sought separation from God and demonized him under the name Demiurge.

Finally, I'm aware of several multidimensional "schemes". This does not mean that the negatives are the controllers of all this. They only exist because there is a call to these entities, and also because evil fulfills its role in this world, of being the catalyst for the evolution of the positives. However, those sincere seekers who seek the One are protected from all evil, because underlying each scheme of darkness, each stone that rolls, each drop of water that falls, is the eternal Infinity in its existence, forever before and after of all things.

[flofrog]

this is so lovely Infinite

unity is such a blissful state that I am always surprised that negative still exists, but again what would we be doing without their generous challenge..

[Agua]

removed

[Aion]

I think there's always the tricky matter of language. Sometimes I think Ra is unable to convey accurately their concepts through our language and so it appears more roundabout than necessary, giving the appearance that they are being indirect.

There are definitely things that Ra 'veils' but it's hard to say whether it's a matter of intention to mislead or if it's more an artifact of the difficulties of communication in such a way. Consider that 'spiritual language' has become a lot more open and diversified since the Ra material was channeled.

[Navaratna]

I agree that inner knowledge is what most of these texts are about.

In my opinion meditation is the way to see the innermost self. There is no mountain you need to climb or planet to fly to.

[Aion]

Know thyself.

[Navaratna]

There are two types of spiritual visions regarding the Earth: it's a school or a prison. During my seek I already believed it was a prison. But being a prison would mean that God is not fair. Then, after meeting a person with some degree of balancing, he showed me the dialogue with HH. Shortly afterwards I discovered LOO, ironically through a website whose author also believes in the theory of the Earth as a prison.

To be clear: we are in a planetary game. Positivity and negativity have been in conflict for millennia. Negatives are part of the game, not its creators. The modus operandi of negatives is to sow fear and confusion. Because they feed on fear. One way to do this is by creating various conspiracy theories and passing them through confusing channels. Messages of destruction and multidimensional control are Orion's tactics to feed on fear and destabilize channels that seek the STO path. This is something old on the face of the Earth. The ancient prophets spoke of destruction. The truth is that to fear death and the destruction of what is 3D material is to surrender to the feeling of fear, which separates us from our Higher Self.

Allied to Orion's tactics, we have the natural feeling of a veiled entity, which is walking in darkness. Anything will seem frightening to you, just as children are afraid of the boogeyman in the dark. Until we experience the Love and Light of the One, everything can frighten us.

Another detail is that large parts of these conspiracy theories speak of the corrupted Demiurge (Logos) being a tyrant who controls and deceives us. This does not make sense in itself. However, it is easily understandable when we trace the origin of these conspiracy theories: they come from ancient Gnostics. They were against the Demiurge for a simple reason: these Gnostic branches were on the left hand path (service to self) and therefore didn't wish to unite to the Creator. They feared that by uniting the Creator they would lose their egos and therefore be annihilated. So they sought separation from God and demonized him under the name Demiurge.

Finally, I'm aware of several multidimensional "schemes". This does not mean that the negatives are the controllers of all this. They only exist because there is a call to these entities, and also because evil fulfills its role in this world, of being the catalyst for the evolution of the positives. However, those sincere seekers who seek the One are protected from all evil, because underlying each scheme of darkness, each stone that rolls, each drop of water that falls, is the eternal Infinity in its existence, forever before and after of all things.

I listened to some of the audio and I think it's sort of off in the timeline we are given by Law of One. Comparing dates given in these texts is a good way to tell if they are truly related.

Edgar Cayce is said to have lived in around 11,000-10,500bc according to some sources as constructing the pyramids-- not around 7000bc mentioned in the Alien interview.

approximately 13000 years ago, with a difference of approximately 1,000 or let's say 2,000 difference gives us a similar time period of 11,000-10,500bc. It may seem like a stretch but saying one date is approximate and another approximate time in between, at another approximate date means that this could indeed fit. We are talking about thousands not hundreds obviously.

Also keep in mind in the Cayce readings it is said that people may have lived much longer in ancient times due to being energized with technologies, such as residing in the chambers of the newly designed pyramid with a white coating and pyramidion cap. Also imagine how the Earth has shifted with tectonic activity. 10500 years is a lot with earthquakes and making the small assumption that the Earth itself could shift by a mere inch each year means the pyramid is not 100% tuned as it originally was as stated in the lawofone.info

https://www.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog...den-found/

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/i...book_5.pdf

Questioner: Jim has felt the obligation to ask two questions that were asked of him by Paul Shockley, and I will ask those two first, in case you are able to answer them before we get started. The first question: Paul Shockley is presently channeling the same source which Edgar Cayce channeled, and he has received information that he took part in the design and construction of the Egyptian pyramids. Can you tell us what his role was in that effort?

Ra: I am Ra. This was in your space/time continuum two periods and two lifetimes. The first of a physical nature working with Confederation entities in what you know of as Atlantis, this approximately 13,000 of your years ago. This memory, shall we say, being integrated into the unconscious of the mind/body/spirit complex of this entity due to its extreme desire to remember the service of healing and polarization possible by the mechanisms of the crystal and the charged healer. The second experience being approximately 1,000 of your years later during which experience this entity prepared, in some part, the consciousness of the people of what you now call Egypt, that they were able to offer the calling that enabled those of our social memory complex to walk among your peoples. During this life experience this entity was of a priest and teaching nature and succeeded in remembering in semi-distorted form the learn/teachings of the Atlantean pyramidal experiences. Thus this entity became a builder of the archetypal thought of the Law of One with distortions towards healing which aided our people in bringing this through into a physical manifestation. Questioner: The second question is: Paul has also received information that there were other beings aiding in the construction of the pyramids, but that they were not fully materialized in the third density. They were materialized from their waist up to their heads but were not materialized from their waist down to their feet. Did such entities exist and aid in the construction of the pyramids, and who were they? Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the intelligent infinity present in the absorption of living-ness and being-ness as it becomes codified into intelligent energy, due to the thought impressions of those assisting the living stone into a new shape of beingness. The release and use of intelligent infinity for a brief period begins to absorb all the consecutive or interlocking dimensions, thus offering brief glimpses of those projecting to the material their thought. These beings thus beginning to materialize but not remaining visible. These beings were the thoughtform or third-density visible manifestation of our social memory complex as we offered contact from our intelligent infinity to the intelligent infinity of the stone.


This strange idea of half materialized beings makes me think of the Egyptian art with some people with serpent bodies and human upper bodies and all the animal headed entities.

[Dtris]

Hello, I have known the Ra material for quite some years and it has helped me alot. I usually don't talk on forums, just observe. But now I felt the urge to make a post as I have encountered info from other sources that contradicts with llresearch info. the material that made me doubt some of the info from here is from the "alien interview" from Roswell crash 1947. to me it seems legit because it has supporting info with knowledge I already know.  

you can read it from the attached file or "watch" the interview from youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClnFAUp...W2A/videos

There is supposed actual footage of a grey interview where the being is speaking english and being questioned aggressively. The content is similar to the first bit I read of the youtube interview. After the first interview session I can say that if legitimate, the being is exactly what I imagine an Orion group being would be like. Notice the answers centered around power and control as well as intense pride and a view of being the elite, better than others. All hallmarks of the STS path.

so a few interesting things came to my attention when reading the interview.
they call souls, themselves and otherselves "IS-BE". IS meaning all that is(god) and BE means being or being in the body for example.
anyway, this alien explains that hes body is not biological, its a doll body. he can exit the body at will and exist as thought form (that's already kind of a big deal if you ask me) not just some alien with limited 3D understanding but someone with understanding of beyond that.

There are human masters alive now who can project thought forms and materialize a body which a person can interact with. There are masters who can bi-locate, travel instantaneously, and other deeds we would call miracles. The ability to project thought forms is common to 5th density and not uncommon at all to 4th, while rare at 3rd. By itself this is not much of an indication of knowledge above others or reliability. It is just a single skill among many. You can learn to do it yourself if you want to.

so here is some of the info that made me think that Ra is trying to hide information from us:
1. the alien says that the pyramids were build by the old empire (the NEGATIVE controllers). blocks were carved with highly concentrated light waves and ufos lifting em up & building the pyramids.

here Ra (POSITIVE) claims to have build the pyramid with THOUGHT, which might be very mysterious way of saying the same thing in order to mislead? anyway, if alien is right its suggesting that Ra is part of negative group

Why does it matter? Egyptologists tell you that thousands of slaves worked for hundreds of years to build the pyramids and think all of this alien stuff is insanity. What changes in your life if negative aliens built the pyramids? What changes of it was slaves?

2. Ra did not want to touch on the subject of UFOs as it would not be central or important subject. I don't understand hes way of thinking, to me learning about these things motivate me and inspire me to dwell even further into the information and often I end up getting lot of spiritual information on the side. who is he to decide what is important information?  And how do you define important info, as there is infinite time to learn and nothing really matters in the end. why not just give the info if that's what feels important to the questioner, do they judge us by thinking this info is not important to someone, it could open a path for the seeker to travel. he just DODGES the question. like are we not equal to Ra? why cant we have info on certain subjects, information should be open to any who wishes for it. feels like we are some inferior pets or something. this is why we are stuck. (imo)

Ra always answered questions even if they were of a transient nature. Ra also made it clear that they were there to teach the Law of One, or metaphysical philosophy. Anything which was about specific physical phenomena was considered transient, as it was not related to the purpose of Ra being channeled. This would be similar to you hiring a golf instructor and asking them about UFOs instead of taking your golf lesson, then getting upset when they say that it is not important. Also bear in mind that there are many other questions which Ra said were transient which were unrelated to UFOs.

3. Ok this next one is from Q'uo, he is not giving us info about moon:
S: Certainly. It goes back to the question from last time and the time before which was the question of the size of the moon and the sun being the same size. The first time you did not know the answer. The second time you hadn’t thought any more. And I was asking you if with your various resources you could find that answer and how you went about finding it.

I am Q’uo, and we are aware of your query, my brother. When we attempt to seek for that which we do not know, we look to the heart of our being for that which is important in our seeking. And when it is of great enough importance, then it is that we attempt to become that which we do not know. In this instance we do not seek for the answer for this information, for we feel that it is unimportant and is not central either to our service or our own learning. Rather, we would suggest that instead of being concerned with the external artifacts of the astronomical illusion that you look instead to the sun and the moon of your own inner being.

so hes asking actually about why moon perfectly fits to block the sun when looking here from earth I think. Q'uo claims that he doesn't know!!!
QUESTION DODGED. I've read from many different sources that moon was not originally here and it was brought here, and that it helps with the forced 3D or with keeping souls trapped in earth. its artificial.

 

What is the maximum velocity of an unladen swallow? Oh you don't know? OFF THE BRIDGE WITH YOU! I can't believe you would dodge the question. Seriously, not knowing is not the same as dodging. Dodging means they did know but gave a vague or deflecting answer. This answer, contrarily, is a pretty straightforward if diplomatic way of saying, "Don't Know, Don't Care." I don't know jack about makeup, nor do I care. So if someone asks me about the difference in brands of lip stick or some crap I am not going to bother answering.

I am more curious as to why are you projecting your beliefs onto Ra/Qu'o? You believe you know why the moon is there and the same size as the sun, therefore a higher evolved being must also know this specific information or you don't believe them? What would you have said if they did say the origin of the moon and said it was a natural moon that happened to fall into this specific orbit by chance? Would you then call them liars because you had heard differently?

I feel like they focus on knowledge about inner reality but we cant escape the prison planet if we forget our memories every damn time we die and reincarnate!

in that alien interview its said that they shock the soul (after we die) with billions of volts of electricity to reset us, all of our memories, GONE, not just in from earth, but everything you experienced from the infinite past. then comes the hypnotic suggestions to dumb us down.

what if the harvest cycles don't actually exist and they are tricking us, by giving all this otherwise correct info to temporarily help us, until the memory reset. like they are "growing us" like in a farm so they themselves get power by the universal law that you advance the soul by "helping" us over and over again, they don't want us to get out of this prison, because they advance by helping us grow internally and then we get our memories reset and we don't know jack s*** again.
Our higher self keeps our memories, not us. But that higher self is like a god already anyway.



this all came to me when I read through that interview and the end part I "realized" when I wrote all this
I hope you too read the interview, it will make this post much clearer and its an interesting read nonetheless (btw I didn't finish reading it yet, I'm almost at the end but gotta sleep now) and give your thoughts, my thought is that Ra is hiding something!

My thought is that you have decided to believe in a prison planet narrative for the Earth and you are judging all material you encounter based on that now existing bias. One thing a lot of different sources agree on is that we create our own reality. Our beliefs are the creative factor. So, I would ask you and anyone else, does your belief make your life better or worse? Does your belief serve you or does it serve someone or something else?

I have chosen my beliefs carefully not just based on possibility of being true, but also one how much they enhance my life. The belief in a prison planet does not in any way help me, and in fact could hinder me. So I have chosen not to believe it. Of course action-ability has to be accounted for as well. If some alien race that I can't punch in the face claims to be my master and I their slave, I don't believe it. If I could see them in front of me of course I would believe it, and then I would rebel.

I also think that as much as possible you should approach all new material with as little bias as possible. Try to judge the veracity by how the information feels to you. Multiple beings can be telling the truth in channeled material and seemingly contradict each other, since they are coming from different levels of reality, being filtered through different channels, and interpreted by you at different points in time. I can tell you that the Ra Material and L/L Research material has only made my life better, in very specific and tangible ways. I have never read as short a series as the Ra material yet cried in joy so many times when a part touches my very core of being. You can choose to believe whatever you would like but I know the Ra material is beneficial for me and I choose to believe most of it. This is after 15 years or more of research and learning. Don't believe me or the Ra material, think for yourself, question everything. Even the Ra material. I have over and over and it only makes more and more sense the more I learn.

[Dtris]

I think there's always the tricky matter of language. Sometimes I think Ra is unable to convey accurately their concepts through our language and so it appears more roundabout than necessary, giving the appearance that they are being indirect.

There are definitely things that Ra 'veils' but it's hard to say whether it's a matter of intention to mislead or if it's more an artifact of the difficulties of communication in such a way. Consider that 'spiritual language' has become a lot more open and diversified since the Ra material was channeled.

On this most recent revisit of the material I am thinking more and more that Ra alludes to many different things that Don would be able to question further on down the road. It is a shame the material ended so early.

[SP1]

Hello, I have known the Ra material for quite some years and it has helped me alot. I usually don't talk on forums, just observe. But now I felt the urge to make a post as I have encountered info from other sources that contradicts with llresearch info. the material that made me doubt some of the info from here is from the "alien interview" from Roswell crash 1947. to me it seems legit because it has supporting info with knowledge I already know.  

you can read it from the attached file or "watch" the interview from youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClnFAUp...W2A/videos

so a few interesting things came to my attention when reading the interview.
they call souls, themselves and otherselves "IS-BE". IS meaning all that is(god) and BE means being or being in the body for example.
anyway, this alien explains that hes body is not biological, its a doll body. he can exit the body at will and exist as thought form (that's already kind of a big deal if you ask me) not just some alien with limited 3D understanding but someone with understanding of beyond that.

so here is some of the info that made me think that Ra is trying to hide information from us:
1. the alien says that the pyramids were build by the old empire (the NEGATIVE controllers). blocks were carved with highly concentrated light waves and ufos lifting em up & building the pyramids.

here Ra (POSITIVE) claims to have build the pyramid with THOUGHT, which might be very mysterious way of saying the same thing in order to mislead? anyway, if alien is right its suggesting that Ra is part of negative group


2. Ra did not want to touch on the subject of UFOs as it would not be central or important subject. I don't understand hes way of thinking, to me learning about these things motivate me and inspire me to dwell even further into the information and often I end up getting lot of spiritual information on the side. who is he to decide what is important information?  And how do you define important info, as there is infinite time to learn and nothing really matters in the end. why not just give the info if that's what feels important to the questioner, do they judge us by thinking this info is not important to someone, it could open a path for the seeker to travel. he just DODGES the question. like are we not equal to Ra? why cant we have info on certain subjects, information should be open to any who wishes for it. feels like we are some inferior pets or something. this is why we are stuck. (imo)

3. Ok this next one is from Q'uo, he is not giving us info about moon:
S: Certainly. It goes back to the question from last time and the time before which was the question of the size of the moon and the sun being the same size. The first time you did not know the answer. The second time you hadn’t thought any more. And I was asking you if with your various resources you could find that answer and how you went about finding it.

I am Q’uo, and we are aware of your query, my brother. When we attempt to seek for that which we do not know, we look to the heart of our being for that which is important in our seeking. And when it is of great enough importance, then it is that we attempt to become that which we do not know. In this instance we do not seek for the answer for this information, for we feel that it is unimportant and is not central either to our service or our own learning. Rather, we would suggest that instead of being concerned with the external artifacts of the astronomical illusion that you look instead to the sun and the moon of your own inner being.

so hes asking actually about why moon perfectly fits to block the sun when looking here from earth I think. Q'uo claims that he doesn't know!!!
QUESTION DODGED. I've read from many different sources that moon was not originally here and it was brought here, and that it helps with the forced 3D or with keeping souls trapped in earth. its artificial.  

I feel like they focus on knowledge about inner reality but we cant escape the prison planet if we forget our memories every damn time we die and reincarnate!

in that alien interview its said that they shock the soul (after we die) with billions of volts of electricity to reset us, all of our memories, GONE, not just in from earth, but everything you experienced from the infinite past. then comes the hypnotic suggestions to dumb us down.

what if the harvest cycles don't actually exist and they are tricking us, by giving all this otherwise correct info to temporarily help us, until the memory reset. like they are "growing us" like in a farm so they themselves get power by the universal law that you advance the soul by "helping" us over and over again, they don't want us to get out of this prison, because they advance by helping us grow internally and then we get our memories reset and we don't know jack s*** again.
Our higher self keeps our memories, not us. But that higher self is like a god already anyway.



this all came to me when I read through that interview and the end part I "realized" when I wrote all this
I hope you too read the interview, it will make this post much clearer and its an interesting read nonetheless (btw I didn't finish reading it yet, I'm almost at the end but gotta sleep now) and give your thoughts, my thought is that Ra is hiding something!

When Ra said they built the pyramids for initiation I became suspicious.

[J.W.]

Ra is hiding a cookie under your bed, so the cookie monster can't "nom nom" it.

No, but on a serious note....

Servant... you are implying Ra "could" be negative, and this is the classic "switcharoo" plot the negative side cooked up for us to swallow?

1. Ra and L/L Research don't force their transcripts on anyone, you have the freewill to choose to believe or not to believe in the materials... To me, this is pretty STO and not "dictating" like the negative side tends to do.

2. .... Infinite actually answered this very well, so I don't need to repeat what he/she said.

Mmm... this one is weird...... There seems to be an increased of doom, loom in the air...

Cheer up lad, you are too in your head during this pandemic, go outside for a bit.

I would look deeper into the "intention," and "energy" behind these vibrations- If this resonate with anyone, "you know what I mean."

[BrotherInWaiting]

Lately it seems a bit more that way, huh. Oh well. Seems many are well aware of it. Probably doesn't do much damage. Maybe the opposite, we'll never know most likely.

[dexter101]

there are a lot of inconsistencies in the Ra material

see this review on amazon:

"In 35.8 of the Law of One Books, the Ra Collective talks about Abraham Lincoln in a positive way. However, Abraham Lincoln was part of the evil agenda. Abraham Lincoln had no wish or desire to free the slaves. One of the main reasons that the South went to war with the North was over the proposed 40% tax rate, not slavery. (See Morrill Tariff Act of 1861.) If it’s true, Abraham Lincoln said, “I can’t let them (the South) go. Who would pay for the government?”

Lincoln’s concern was to keep the Union together at all costs—not freeing the slaves. (Read Lincoln’s letter to Horace Greeley, August 22nd, 1862.) The Union was about enslaving ALL OF THE PEOPLE with taxes and laws created by the rich. (This was the dark Reptilian agenda of the time.) Lincoln had no wish to give freedom to the people, and he only signed the Emancipation Proclamation in the hopes that the southern slaves would rise up and riot against the South so the southern armies would go back home and protect their land and families. As we already know in the U.S., this didn’t happen, and the Union enslaved the population anyway—not just the innocent African slaves. (By the way, thirteen U.S. Presidents owned slaves. Eight U.S. Presidents owned slaves while they were in office. How much more proof do you need that we are controlled by the dark side? We went from racial and sexual slavery to financial slavery.)

The Ra Collective said that Abraham Lincoln was a walk-in. What kind of walk-in soul would enslave all of the people and force them to live under laws created by the rich? The only walk-in that would do this would be a dark, evil soul, not a loving soul. Furthermore, an advanced walk-in soul would have followed the supposed law of free will and asked permission of the people for everything. This walk-in soul, through Lincoln, never asked the people what they wanted. This walk-in forced the people—North and South—to live by laws created by Lincoln and the rich. That is not the same free will that the Ra Collective talks about. This is extremely suspicious."



i dont know what to make of this. i wish i had psychic powers and could just pierce the veil and see what is really going on but i dont. we are all blind and as long as we are blind we are never going to be able to fight the true enemy.

[Sacred Fool]

we are all blind and as long as we are blind we are never going to be able to fight the true enemy.

There certainly are inconsistencies in the Ra Material, but I'm not sure this is one of them.  Is the author of this really an expert on what a positive walk-in soul would do?  Is this criticism based upon knowledge or bias?

By the way, if you read the Lincoln-Douglas debates, you'll see that Lincoln had firm ideas against slavery, but that which a politician can actually accomplish is a different matter.

Anyhow, this entire focus of the criticism is on relatively unimportant matters.  The value of the Ra Material is surely not it's historical analysis nor practical value, but is its insights into the nature of spiritual evolution.

And regarding the quote above, Ra has no bias towards fighting enemies, either real or unreal.  The point is to encompass the consciousness of self, and that includes perceptions of opposing actors.  In other words, that includes the apparent self and the apparent other-self, regardless of how well they play together.
   

[Aion]

I think there's always the tricky matter of language. Sometimes I think Ra is unable to convey accurately their concepts through our language and so it appears more roundabout than necessary, giving the appearance that they are being indirect.

There are definitely things that Ra 'veils' but it's hard to say whether it's a matter of intention to mislead or if it's more an artifact of the difficulties of communication in such a way. Consider that 'spiritual language' has become a lot more open and diversified since the Ra material was channeled.

On this most recent revisit of the material I am thinking more and more that Ra alludes to many different things that Don would be able to question further on down the road. It is a shame the material ended so early.

I cannot tell you how often when reading the material where I ask "why didn't Don question further on _____?"

There are tons of instances where it seems like Ra is hinting towards 'something' but Don doesn't pick up the hint, or at least didn't respond to it. I am not sure but I think in Don's scientific mode and him being the one arranging the questions he likely deeply thought out which questions he would ask in each session and didn't seem like the type to 'improvise'. Instead it seems he would more often wait until the next or a future session to bring up a previous point again or question further, although sometimes there are clearly moments where he asks spontaneous questions. I think both sides are helpful.

That being said, I've considered the desire for it to have been longer, or for there to "be more", but some hunch tells me the story went exactly the way it was 'supposed' to create the living example they as souls were trying to create.

[Aion]

Also, just because it's actually an interesting portion of the Material, here is exactly what Ra had to say about Lincoln.

26.15 Questioner: Wondering if the one, Abraham Lincoln, could have possibly been a Wanderer?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. This entity was a normal, shall we say, Earth being which chose to leave the vehicle and allow an entity to use it on a permanent basis. This is relatively rare compared to the phenomenon of Wanderers.

You would do better considering the incarnations of Wanderers such as the one known as “Thomas,” the one known as “Benjamin.”

26.17 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me where the entity that used Lincoln— Abraham’s— body what density he came from and where?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity was fourth-vibration.

35.6 Questioner: Thank you. Earlier we discussed Abraham Lincoln as a rather unique case. Is it possible for you to tell us what the orientation was and why the fourth-density being used Abraham’s body, and when this took place with respect to the activities that were occurring in our society at that time?

Ra: I am Ra. This is possible.

35.8 Questioner: Well in that case I would like to know the motivation for this use of Abraham Lincoln’s body at that time?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this session as we find the instrument quite low in vital energies.

The one known as Abraham had an extreme difficulty in many ways and, due to physical, mental, and spiritual pain, was weary of life but without the orientation to self-destruction. In your time, 1853, this entity was contacted in sleep by a fourth-density being. This being was concerned with the battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness which have been waged in fourth density for many of your years.

This entity accepted the honor/duty of completing the one known as Abraham’s karmic patterns and the one known as Abraham discovered that this entity would attempt those things which the one known as Abraham desired to do but felt it could not. Thus the exchange was made.

The entity, Abraham, was taken to a plane of suspension until the cessation of its physical vehicle much as though we of Ra would arrange with this instrument to remain in the vehicle, come out of the trance state, and function as this instrument, leaving this instrument’s mind and spirit complex in its suspended state.

The planetary energies at this time were at what seemed to this entity to be at a critical point, for that which you know as freedom had gained in acceptance as a possibility among many peoples. This entity saw the work done by those beginning the democratic concept of freedom, as you call it, in danger of being abridged or abrogated by the rising belief and use of the principle of the enslavement of entities. This is a negative concept of a fairly serious nature in your density. This entity, therefore, went forward into what it saw as the battle for the light, for healing of a rupture in the concept of freedom.

This entity did not gain or lose karma by these activities due to its detachment from any outcome. Its attitude throughout was one of service to others, more especially to the downtrodden or enslaved. The polarity of the individual was somewhat, but not severely, lessened by the cumulative feelings and thought-forms which were created due to large numbers of entities leaving the physical plane due to trauma of battle.

May we ask if this is the information you requested or if we may supply any further information?

So we have an interesting thing here where Lincoln gave up his body to a higher dimensional spirit who's attitude was of service to other however it's worth nothing that Lincoln actually LOST polarity from this, according to Ra, so that doesn't really line up with the suggestion that Ra "talked about Lincoln in a positive way". He states that the entity that inhabited Lincoln's body was fourth-density positive.

However, there are other examples in the material of higher density entities choosing to enter third-density and making mistakes (like Ra themselves...) and then having to recap on it. It sounds to me according to Ra that this entity made some miscalculations and was more concerned with engaging the "battle" than the work of polarity. I wonder if this entity had to do some healing working after that life?

83.12 Questioner: Then you say that there are no cases where those who are service-to-others oriented are using in any way techniques of enslavement that have grown as a result of the evolution of our social structures? Is this what you mean?

Ra: I am Ra. It was our understanding that your query concerned conditions before the veiling. There was no unconscious slavery, as you call this condition, at that period. At the present space/time the condition of well-meant and unintentional slavery are so numerous that it beggars our ability to enumerate them.

Actually, Ra's analysis of Lincoln seems pretty "dry" to me, more of an explanation than anything else.

It's also worth pointing this out.

26.19 Questioner: Was his assassination in any way influenced by Orion or any other negative force?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Now, that being said, I absolutely agree there are inconsistencies in the material and I by all means have questions for many parts of it. I've gone through the "imposter" thought train a number of times but it never quite adds up. Despite the inconsistencies of 'transient material', the non-transient material is very consistent and well, frankly, I've met the folks from L/L and I just can't imagine those folks being part of some overlord reptilian mind-control agenda, and if they are, they are very sneaky. Which I respect.

Really though, if Ra is some other dimensional being trying to enslave people through this material they're doing a real poor job of it.

[Dtris]

there are a lot of inconsistencies in the Ra material

see this review on amazon:

"In 35.8 of the Law of One Books, the Ra Collective talks about Abraham Lincoln in a positive way. However, Abraham Lincoln was part of the evil agenda. Abraham Lincoln had no wish or desire to free the slaves. One of the main reasons that the South went to war with the North was over the proposed 40% tax rate, not slavery. (See Morrill Tariff Act of 1861.) If it’s true, Abraham Lincoln said, “I can’t let them (the South) go. Who would pay for the government?”

Lincoln’s concern was to keep the Union together at all costs—not freeing the slaves. (Read Lincoln’s letter to Horace Greeley, August 22nd, 1862.) The Union was about enslaving ALL OF THE PEOPLE with taxes and laws created by the rich. (This was the dark Reptilian agenda of the time.) Lincoln had no wish to give freedom to the people, and he only signed the Emancipation Proclamation in the hopes that the southern slaves would rise up and riot against the South so the southern armies would go back home and protect their land and families. As we already know in the U.S., this didn’t happen, and the Union enslaved the population anyway—not just the innocent African slaves. (By the way, thirteen U.S. Presidents owned slaves. Eight U.S. Presidents owned slaves while they were in office. How much more proof do you need that we are controlled by the dark side? We went from racial and sexual slavery to financial slavery.)

The Ra Collective said that Abraham Lincoln was a walk-in. What kind of walk-in soul would enslave all of the people and force them to live under laws created by the rich? The only walk-in that would do this would be a dark, evil soul, not a loving soul. Furthermore, an advanced walk-in soul would have followed the supposed law of free will and asked permission of the people for everything. This walk-in soul, through Lincoln, never asked the people what they wanted. This walk-in forced the people—North and South—to live by laws created by Lincoln and the rich. That is not the same free will that the Ra Collective talks about. This is extremely suspicious."



i dont know what to make of this. i wish i had psychic powers and could just pierce the veil and see what is really going on but i dont. we are all blind and as long as we are blind we are never going to be able to fight the true enemy.

I am not sure you should be using book reviews on Amazon as debunking material. Also this view of Lincoln is just as or even more distorted than any other popular view. It also ignores the rest of the history of the time. The abolitionist movement was not new and was almost a century old before the war.

In the United States, all of the states north of Maryland abolished slavery between 1777 and 1804. But antislavery sentiments had little effect on the centres of slavery themselves: the great plantations of the Deep South, the West Indies, and South America. Turning their attention to these areas, British and American abolitionists began working in the late 18th century to prohibit the importation of African slaves into the British colonies and the United States. Under the leadership of William Wilberforce and Thomas Clarkson, these forces succeeded in getting the slave trade to the British colonies abolished in 1807. The United States prohibited the importation of slaves that same year, though widespread smuggling continued until about 1862.

Jolted by the raid (1859) of the abolitionist extremist John Brown on Harpers Ferry, the South became convinced that its entire way of life, based on the cheap labour provided by slaves, was irretrievably threatened by the election to the presidency of Abraham Lincoln (November 1860), who was opposed to the spread of slavery into the Western territories. The ensuing secession of the Southern states led to the American Civil War (1861–65). The war, which began as a sectional power struggle to preserve the Union, in turn led Lincoln (who had never been an abolitionist) to emancipate the slaves in areas of the rebellion by the Emancipation Proclamation (1863) and led further to the freeing of all other slaves in the United States by the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution in 1865.

Under the pressure of worldwide public opinion, slavery was completely abolished in its last remaining Latin American strongholds, Cuba and Brazil, in 1880–86 and 1883–88, respectively, and thus the system of African slavery as a Western phenomenon ceased to exist. See also slavery.

[Eddie]

there are a lot of inconsistencies in the Ra material

see this review on amazon:

"In 35.8 of the Law of One Books, the Ra Collective talks about Abraham Lincoln in a positive way. However, Abraham Lincoln was part of the evil agenda. Abraham Lincoln had no wish or desire to free the slaves. One of the main reasons that the South went to war with the North was over the proposed 40% tax rate, not slavery. (See Morrill Tariff Act of 1861.) If it’s true, Abraham Lincoln said, “I can’t let them (the South) go. Who would pay for the government?”

Lincoln’s concern was to keep the Union together at all costs—not freeing the slaves. (Read Lincoln’s letter to Horace Greeley, August 22nd, 1862.) The Union was about enslaving ALL OF THE PEOPLE with taxes and laws created by the rich. (This was the dark Reptilian agenda of the time.) Lincoln had no wish to give freedom to the people, and he only signed the Emancipation Proclamation in the hopes that the southern slaves would rise up and riot against the South so the southern armies would go back home and protect their land and families. As we already know in the U.S., this didn’t happen, and the Union enslaved the population anyway—not just the innocent African slaves. (By the way, thirteen U.S. Presidents owned slaves. Eight U.S. Presidents owned slaves while they were in office. How much more proof do you need that we are controlled by the dark side? We went from racial and sexual slavery to financial slavery.)

The Ra Collective said that Abraham Lincoln was a walk-in. What kind of walk-in soul would enslave all of the people and force them to live under laws created by the rich? The only walk-in that would do this would be a dark, evil soul, not a loving soul. Furthermore, an advanced walk-in soul would have followed the supposed law of free will and asked permission of the people for everything. This walk-in soul, through Lincoln, never asked the people what they wanted. This walk-in forced the people—North and South—to live by laws created by Lincoln and the rich. That is not the same free will that the Ra Collective talks about. This is extremely suspicious."



i dont know what to make of this. i wish i had psychic powers and could just pierce the veil and see what is really going on but i dont. we are all blind and as long as we are blind we are never going to be able to fight the true enemy.

I am not sure you should be using book reviews on Amazon as debunking material. Also this view of Lincoln is just as or even more distorted than any other popular view. It also ignores the rest of the history of the time. The abolitionist movement was not new and was almost a century old before the war.

In the United States, all of the states north of Maryland abolished slavery between 1777 and 1804. But antislavery sentiments had little effect on the centres of slavery themselves: the great plantations of the Deep South, the West Indies, and South America. Turning their attention to these areas, British and American abolitionists began working in the late 18th century to prohibit the importation of African slaves into the British colonies and the United States. Under the leadership of William Wilberforce and Thomas Clarkson, these forces succeeded in getting the slave trade to the British colonies abolished in 1807. The United States prohibited the importation of slaves that same year, though widespread smuggling continued until about 1862.

Jolted by the raid (1859) of the abolitionist extremist John Brown on Harpers Ferry, the South became convinced that its entire way of life, based on the cheap labour provided by slaves, was irretrievably threatened by the election to the presidency of Abraham Lincoln (November 1860), who was opposed to the spread of slavery into the Western territories. The ensuing secession of the Southern states led to the American Civil War (1861–65). The war, which began as a sectional power struggle to preserve the Union, in turn led Lincoln (who had never been an abolitionist) to emancipate the slaves in areas of the rebellion by the Emancipation Proclamation (1863) and led further to the freeing of all other slaves in the United States by the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution in 1865.

Under the pressure of worldwide public opinion, slavery was completely abolished in its last remaining Latin American strongholds, Cuba and Brazil, in 1880–86 and 1883–88, respectively, and thus the system of African slavery as a Western phenomenon ceased to exist. See also slavery.

As someone who is active in the exploration of this area of study, I'll comment here that the Amazon reviewer is more accurate than the Brittanica entry.  The (pre-war) abolition of slavery in Northern states was.....selectively enforced.  I have a friend who had ancestors in Ohio and Indiana who owned slaves during the time of the War Between the States, and another who had slave-owning ancestors in Illinois.

For a good critical scrutinization of Lincoln, I recommend the pamphlet entitled Shattering the Icon of Abraham Lincoln, by Sam Dickson, which most definitely does not "ignore the history of the time".

[Dtris]

there are a lot of inconsistencies in the Ra material

see this review on amazon:

"In 35.8 of the Law of One Books, the Ra Collective talks about Abraham Lincoln in a positive way. However, Abraham Lincoln was part of the evil agenda. Abraham Lincoln had no wish or desire to free the slaves. One of the main reasons that the South went to war with the North was over the proposed 40% tax rate, not slavery. (See Morrill Tariff Act of 1861.) If it’s true, Abraham Lincoln said, “I can’t let them (the South) go. Who would pay for the government?”

Lincoln’s concern was to keep the Union together at all costs—not freeing the slaves. (Read Lincoln’s letter to Horace Greeley, August 22nd, 1862.) The Union was about enslaving ALL OF THE PEOPLE with taxes and laws created by the rich. (This was the dark Reptilian agenda of the time.) Lincoln had no wish to give freedom to the people, and he only signed the Emancipation Proclamation in the hopes that the southern slaves would rise up and riot against the South so the southern armies would go back home and protect their land and families. As we already know in the U.S., this didn’t happen, and the Union enslaved the population anyway—not just the innocent African slaves. (By the way, thirteen U.S. Presidents owned slaves. Eight U.S. Presidents owned slaves while they were in office. How much more proof do you need that we are controlled by the dark side? We went from racial and sexual slavery to financial slavery.)

The Ra Collective said that Abraham Lincoln was a walk-in. What kind of walk-in soul would enslave all of the people and force them to live under laws created by the rich? The only walk-in that would do this would be a dark, evil soul, not a loving soul. Furthermore, an advanced walk-in soul would have followed the supposed law of free will and asked permission of the people for everything. This walk-in soul, through Lincoln, never asked the people what they wanted. This walk-in forced the people—North and South—to live by laws created by Lincoln and the rich. That is not the same free will that the Ra Collective talks about. This is extremely suspicious."



i dont know what to make of this. i wish i had psychic powers and could just pierce the veil and see what is really going on but i dont. we are all blind and as long as we are blind we are never going to be able to fight the true enemy.

I am not sure you should be using book reviews on Amazon as debunking material. Also this view of Lincoln is just as or even more distorted than any other popular view. It also ignores the rest of the history of the time. The abolitionist movement was not new and was almost a century old before the war.

In the United States, all of the states north of Maryland abolished slavery between 1777 and 1804. But antislavery sentiments had little effect on the centres of slavery themselves: the great plantations of the Deep South, the West Indies, and South America. Turning their attention to these areas, British and American abolitionists began working in the late 18th century to prohibit the importation of African slaves into the British colonies and the United States. Under the leadership of William Wilberforce and Thomas Clarkson, these forces succeeded in getting the slave trade to the British colonies abolished in 1807. The United States prohibited the importation of slaves that same year, though widespread smuggling continued until about 1862.

Jolted by the raid (1859) of the abolitionist extremist John Brown on Harpers Ferry, the South became convinced that its entire way of life, based on the cheap labour provided by slaves, was irretrievably threatened by the election to the presidency of Abraham Lincoln (November 1860), who was opposed to the spread of slavery into the Western territories. The ensuing secession of the Southern states led to the American Civil War (1861–65). The war, which began as a sectional power struggle to preserve the Union, in turn led Lincoln (who had never been an abolitionist) to emancipate the slaves in areas of the rebellion by the Emancipation Proclamation (1863) and led further to the freeing of all other slaves in the United States by the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution in 1865.

Under the pressure of worldwide public opinion, slavery was completely abolished in its last remaining Latin American strongholds, Cuba and Brazil, in 1880–86 and 1883–88, respectively, and thus the system of African slavery as a Western phenomenon ceased to exist. See also slavery.

As someone who is active in the exploration of this area of study, I'll comment here that the Amazon reviewer is more accurate than the Brittanica entry.  The (pre-war) abolition of slavery in Northern states was.....selectively enforced.  I have a friend who had ancestors in Ohio and Indiana who owned slaves during the time of the War Between the States, and another who had slave-owning ancestors in Illinois.

For a good critical scrutinization of Lincoln, I recommend the pamphlet entitled Shattering the Icon of Abraham Lincoln, by Sam Dickson, which most definitely does not "ignore the history of the time".

What laws are not selectively enforced? What time has slavery not existed? It still exists today, the only difference is it is illegal so underground. Saying a Amazon reviewer who is promoting an agenda that Lincoln was trying to enslave the world thru a monetary system is more reliable than an encyclopedia which made no claims whatsoever as to motive or goals, is frankly ridiculous. While there are many reasons for the war, it would have never happened it it wasn't for the abolitionist movement. The reviewer can be completely accurate in his quotes and facts, none of which make any difference to what I quoted from Brittanica, nor does the fact that slavery existed in the north in contravention of law.

[moyal]

Abolition:
http://mileswmathis.com/wilber.pdf

Lincoln:
http://mileswmathis.com/lincoln.pdf

[Eddie]

What laws are not selectively enforced? What time has slavery not existed? It still exists today, the only difference is it is illegal so underground. Saying a Amazon reviewer who is promoting an agenda that Lincoln was trying to enslave the world thru a monetary system is more reliable than an encyclopedia which made no claims whatsoever as to motive or goals, is frankly ridiculous. While there are many reasons for the war, it would have never happened it it wasn't for the abolitionist movement. The reviewer can be completely accurate in his quotes and facts, none of which make any difference to what I quoted from Brittanica, nor does the fact that slavery existed in the north in contravention of law.

Nonsense.  Encylopedia Britannica (if you peel back the layers of companies) is owned by Jacqui Safra, a Billionaire banker, formerly of Republic New York Bank.  To say that E.B. doesn't have an agenda, is like saying that the New York Times or MSNBC doesn't have an agenda.  They are all leftist-globalist propaganda outlets. 

You should also dig into who comprised Lincoln's clients when he was in private legal practice, before he became President.

Edited to add:  I am not claiming that Lincoln deliberately worked for national enslavement, rather that he was manipulated into serving the interests of those who were.

[JJCarsonian]

I find the Roswell Alien interview very interesting. Do we think this is completely made up, or a combination of lies and truths from the alien? If these events really happened, is it also a negative entity?

[Dtris]

What laws are not selectively enforced? What time has slavery not existed? It still exists today, the only difference is it is illegal so underground. Saying a Amazon reviewer who is promoting an agenda that Lincoln was trying to enslave the world thru a monetary system is more reliable than an encyclopedia which made no claims whatsoever as to motive or goals, is frankly ridiculous. While there are many reasons for the war, it would have never happened it it wasn't for the abolitionist movement. The reviewer can be completely accurate in his quotes and facts, none of which make any difference to what I quoted from Brittanica, nor does the fact that slavery existed in the north in contravention of law.

Nonsense.  Encylopedia Britannica (if you peel back the layers of companies) is owned by Jacqui Safra, a Billionaire banker, formerly of Republic New York Bank.  To say that E.B. doesn't have an agenda, is like saying that the New York Times or MSNBC doesn't have an agenda.  They are all leftist-globalist propaganda outlets. 

You should also dig into who comprised Lincoln's clients when he was in private legal practice, before he became President.

Edited to add:  I am not claiming that Lincoln deliberately worked for national enslavement, rather that he was manipulated into serving the interests of those who were.

As I have mentioned before, I find the whole earth is a prison planet, enslavement by negative elites belief system to not be helpful. While I believe negative elites exist, and want to enslave the world, I do not believe that everyone who is anyone is their puppet. Frankly, focusing on that does not in any way help me become more loving and more one with creation. The very idea that the facts presented in Britannica on a random abolitionist article are influenced by the owner who is likely removed by multiple degrees in the day to day operation is absurd. Maybe an article about the JFK assassination would be scrutinized, but no benefit comes from curating easily verified information, commonly taught in school 20 years ago like Harper Ferry and Frederick Douglas, and Uncle Tom's Cabin.