harvest for wanderers?

[flow]

namaste guys, i am sure this must have been answered already but i can't find the answer anywhere.

the question is: what happens to a wanderer upon harvest? say a life of a wanderer ends and it was able to reach necessary service-to-others polarization, then what? it goes back to its home density and continues its path there seeing its earth assingment as one of many steps towards being closer to One Infinite Creator... OR ..it goes to 4th density positive?

[ada]

70.15 ▶ Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?

Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.

43.28 ▶ Questioner: I guess I didn’t state that correctly. Is it true that the fourth-density, new fourth-density beings then need to evolve in their thinking to reach a point where fifth-density lessons would be of value?

Ra: I am Ra. We grasp the thrust of your query. Although it is true that as fourth-density beings progress they have more and more need for other density teachings, it is also true that just as we speak to you due to the calling, so the information called is always available. It is simply that fifth-density beings will not live upon the surface of the planetary sphere until the planet reaches fifth-density vibratory level.

[flow]

thanks!

but i am still confused as to how it works. it is said that upon physical death we enter the light where our polazrization is measured by the intensity we are able to withstand. does that mean that wanderes retain their home density capabilities ie they can withstand light intensity of let's say 6th density so they can take next life in 6 density? or this process is different for wanderers and upon death things go different for a wanderer?

also, why this didn't happen with those 2 entities who swap polarities in 3rd density venus? they became negatively oriented entities, achieved harvestability and moved to 4th density negative, only then did they find they were 5th density positive wanderers. was it because of their negative karma?

[Nau7ik]

thanks!

but i am still confused as to how it works. it is said that upon physical death we enter the light where our polazrization is measured by the intensity we are able to withstand. does that mean that wanderes retain their home density capabilities ie they can withstand light intensity of let's say 6th density so they can take next life in 6 density? or this process is different for wanderers and upon death things go different for a wanderer?

also, why this didn't happen with those 2 entities who swap polarities in 3rd density venus? they became negatively oriented entities, achieved harvestability and moved to 4th density negative, only then did they find they were 5th density positive wanderers. was it because of their negative karma?

It did happen with those two negative-positive wanderers on venus that Ra describes. They went under the veil and forgot their mission and started to develop distortions towards power over others. They had achieved the negative requirement for polarity while they were incarnate as wanderers.

Wanderers must still make and remake their choice of polarity. This is the danger of wandering: that we may forgot our mission and get caught up in the maelstrom of karma.

So with those two entities, they harvested to 4D negative, and then they realized what they had done. They needed to retrace their steps and offset the polarity consciously in negative 4th density. Then they were able to return to their positive 5th density home.

The common element I see is that unbalanced karma holds wanderers back from returning home. The higher self will see it necessary to balance it before returning home. The negative path is all about distortion.

The way I understand it is that wanderers have to meet the same requirements as 3D natives; we are 3D natives right now. Due to our “old souls” we may have deep soul biases that make it easier for us to be wise or to love wholeheartedly. In the case of the two fifth density wanderers on Venus, they came from the wisdom density. They were using wisdom without compassion. Due to the compassionate and trusting nature of the Venusians, they were ripe for the manipulation and control from the wanderers who were developing STS polarity. They were also under a veil.

[Cainite]

The way I understand it is that wanderers have to meet the same requirements as 3D natives; we are 3D natives right now. Due to our “old souls” we may have deep soul biases that make it easier for us to be wise or to love wholeheartedly. In the case of the two fifth density wanderers on Venus, they came from the wisdom density. They were using wisdom without compassion. Due to the compassionate and trusting nature of the Venusians, they were ripe for the manipulation and control from the wanderers who were developing STS polarity. They were also under a veil.

But.. didn't they feel guilt? they were positive wanderers after all.

This confuses me.

[xise]

The way I understand it is that wanderers have to meet the same requirements as 3D natives; we are 3D natives right now. Due to our “old souls” we may have deep soul biases that make it easier for us to be wise or to love wholeheartedly. In the case of the two fifth density wanderers on Venus, they came from the wisdom density. They were using wisdom without compassion. Due to the compassionate and trusting nature of the Venusians, they were ripe for the manipulation and control from the wanderers who were developing STS polarity. They were also under a veil.

But.. didn't they feel guilt? they were positive wanderers after all.

This confuses me.

I believe guilt is a non-polarizing distortion that both paths leave behind. The positive path endeavors to accept and forgive universally, that includes the self, and guilt results from an inability to do so after realizing that one made a mistake. The negative path obviously has no guilt.

The difficulty comes in because our society and often our early experience has seen the power of how even non-polarized distortions can do make stuff happen in the real world (such as Ra says love of tribe as self, or automatic love of one's extended family is my extension - the common society belief that extended family comes first). Just because a distortion can make stuff happen in this world (ie, good things can come from one feeling guilty), does not mean it is a concept that is useful for work in higher states of being.

[Zach]

also, why this didn't happen with those 2 entities who swap polarities in 3rd density venus? they became negatively oriented entities, achieved harvestability and moved to 4th density negative, only then did they find they were 5th density positive wanderers. was it because of their negative karma?

This doesn't directly answer anything, But its worth sharing.

"89.31 ▶ Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization on such a positively polarized planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war."

Each Planet seems to have an energetic context related to polarity. This was a very *new* and unusual experience for those of Venus. Where as here, its rampant. I'd guess that in that way- those two entities were truly "going against the grain" in every way, And their actions on that planet were much more polarizing for that reason- given the seeming extreme amount of harmony on Venus during that time.

[Zach]

The way I understand it is that wanderers have to meet the same requirements as 3D natives; we are 3D natives right now. Due to our “old souls” we may have deep soul biases that make it easier for us to be wise or to love wholeheartedly. In the case of the two fifth density wanderers on Venus, they came from the wisdom density. They were using wisdom without compassion. Due to the compassionate and trusting nature of the Venusians, they were ripe for the manipulation and control from the wanderers who were developing STS polarity. They were also under a veil.

But.. didn't they feel guilt? they were positive wanderers after all.

This confuses me.

"89.40 ▶ Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into fourth-density negative and, the veil being removed, they realized that they had switched polarities?

Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted."

[Glow]

The way I understand it is that wanderers have to meet the same requirements as 3D natives; we are 3D natives right now. Due to our “old souls” we may have deep soul biases that make it easier for us to be wise or to love wholeheartedly. In the case of the two fifth density wanderers on Venus, they came from the wisdom density. They were using wisdom without compassion. Due to the compassionate and trusting nature of the Venusians, they were ripe for the manipulation and control from the wanderers who were developing STS polarity. They were also under a veil.

But.. didn't they feel guilt? they were positive wanderers after all.

This confuses me.

Just from a personal experience perspective. My husband carries the energy of wisdom always has since I met him at 16. He would be a great example of someone working on 5D lessons though I assume he is actually trying to learn to balance them again with love 6D hence our partnership.

Wisdom at that level isn't prone to guilt or suffering in empathy. It will consistently make choices based on it's innate polarity if it is listening and not distracted/or confused but baggage of regret or emotional turmoil seems to be quite absent. He suffers no one elses sorrows. If my husband wasn't with me constantly being a reminder of his softer side I think he could actually be quite STS. I wonder if that is why 5D doesn't wander as much vs 4D & 6D where love/unity/compassion are part of the lessons.

We used to joke(friends) he was a perfect psychopath potential serial killer if he wasn't just wired for decency because wisdom was always present, emotion warmth/compassion almost completely missing until I would say the last year at age 42 emotion is starting to return. He literally felt loneliness for the first time this summer, and only last month for the first time experienced empathy at my distress. 5D would be a tricky wander from what I see without depolarizing accidentally.

All that said it is just my experience so do not take it as gospel just if it seems to resonate it may be useful.

[Glow]

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[Cainite]

Just from a personal experience perspective. My husband carries the energy of wisdom always has since I met him at 16. He would be a great example of someone working on 5D lessons though I assume he is actually trying to learn to balance them again with love 6D hence our partnership.

Wisdom at that level isn't prone to guilt or suffering in empathy. It will consistently make choices based on it's innate polarity if it is listening and not distracted/or confused but baggage of regret or emotional turmoil seems to be quite absent. He suffers no one elses sorrows. If my husband wasn't with me constantly being a reminder of his softer side I think he could actually be quite STS. I wonder if that is why 5D doesn't wander as much vs 4D & 6D where love/unity/compassion are part of the lessons.

We used to joke(friends) he was a perfect psychopath potential serial killer if he wasn't just wired for decency because wisdom was always present, emotion warmth/compassion almost completely missing until I would say the last year at age 42 emotion is starting to return. He literally felt loneliness for the first time this summer, and only last month for the first time experienced empathy at my distress. 5D would be a tricky wander from what I see without depolarizing accidentally.

All that said it is just my experience so do not take it as gospel just if it seems to resonate it may be useful.

Being from 5D is the reason then. I understand.
These kind of people are so rare.

I believe guilt is a non-polarizing distortion that both paths leave behind. The positive path endeavors to accept and forgive universally, that includes the self, and guilt results from an inability to do so after realizing that one made a mistake. The negative path obviously has no guilt.

The difficulty comes in because our society and often our early experience has seen the power of how even non-polarized distortions can do make stuff happen in the real world (such as Ra says love of tribe as self, or automatic love of one's extended family is my extension - the common society belief that extended family comes first). Just because a distortion can make stuff happen in this world (ie, good things can come from one feeling guilty), does not mean it is a concept that is useful for work in higher states of being.

How is this lack of emotion balanced enough itself, to be called a higher state of being?

"89.40 ▶ Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into fourth-density negative and, the veil being removed, they realized that they had switched polarities?

Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted."

I meant: why wouldn't these positive wanderers eventually regret their negative actions at some point after becoming negative during the incarnation.

[flow]

because they thought they did the right thing? like most of us do?

"..Before we leave this topic we would focus once more upon the (inaudible) and fertile land of spiritual choice, the dark world within. Each of you gaze within. Do you feel magical? Do you feel powerful? If the answer comes too easily it is likely that there is that within you which would choose the easy way towards power, that is, the path of negativity, for each step upon the negative path seems from within to be positive: one wishes power so that one may help people; the way to help people is to give advice, give teaching; make sure that all is well by controlling various people and circumstances. All these things feel natural and good. Most beginning negative entities have no idea that they are embarking upon the path of negativity.

Contrasting with this is the positive path, where power is accrued by being the weakest, (inaudible) greatness is achieved by being the servant of others, where advice and teaching are given only when offered. How many among your religious systems, caught up in the fervor of rightness and righteousness, judge, condemn and control many for their own good? How few there are in your belief systems of religion who (inaudible) doctrine and dogma and seek to serve each entity according to its requests when it can, and offering only benediction, forgiveness and acceptance when it cannot. Yet to those few who know themselves well enough not to judge, not to control others, but to work on the self, to these few come strength, magical power and illumination of incandescent light which shoots through that darkness of metaphysical field like lightning. The world, as this instrument would say, cannot see that lightning. Only each individual pilgrim upon the positive path who moves into a life in faith, a life without fear, may be illumined. It moves through one, it does not stay with one. And such entities are channels of joy and peace..."

[xise]

I believe guilt is a non-polarizing distortion that both paths leave behind. The positive path endeavors to accept and forgive universally, that includes the self, and guilt results from an inability to do so after realizing that one made a mistake. The negative path obviously has no guilt.

The difficulty comes in because our society and often our early experience has seen the power of how even non-polarized distortions can do make stuff happen in the real world (such as Ra says love of tribe as self, or automatic love of one's extended family is my extension - the common society belief that extended family comes first). Just because a distortion can make stuff happen in this world (ie, good things can come from one feeling guilty), does not mean it is a concept that is useful for work in higher states of being.

How is this lack of emotion balanced enough itself, to be called a higher state of being?

"89.40 ▶ Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into fourth-density negative and, the veil being removed, they realized that they had switched polarities?

Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted."

I meant: why wouldn't these positive wanderers eventually regret their negative actions at some point after becoming negative during the incarnation.

I believe there probably was tremendous emotion - they were disconcerted, as Ra notes, upon learning they graduated 4th density negative. Definitely sadness (which I believe to be a relatively undistorted emotion). Hopefully also love, understanding, acceptance and forgiveness. I know I would be disconcerted and upset in such a situation.

But to start on a deeper discussion of guilt let's go over several things.

1. (A) Definition of Guilt
2. Ra's Quote on Response of a Perfectly Balanced Entity
3. Ra's Quote on No Right or Wrong
4. My Own Experiences with Healing the Distortion of Guilt as a Workable Concept

 (A) Definition of Guilt

Basically, a distorted form of sadness that believes there was a wrong outcome because of the self that reflects poorly on the individual self. 
Note that I find shame to have a similar definition - Basically, a distorted form of sadness that believes there was a wrong outcome because of the self that reflects poorly on the soceital self. 
Also might be useful to say that for discussion, I would define regret as a form of sadness that believes they did things differently in the past - although I'm sure regret is definitely less distorted than guilt or shame, I think it might be a relative pure form of sadness and be relatively undistorted - or it may not be, I have yet to ponder regret fully, but it definitely doesn't seem to hold one back the same as guilt or shame.

Ra's Quote on Response of a Perfectly Balanced Entity

42.2 ▶ Questioner: I will just read it very rapidly the question, then.

I am going to make a statement and ask you to comment on its degree of accuracy. I am assuming that the balanced entity would not be swayed either towards positive or negative emotions by any situation which he might confront. By remaining unemotional in any situation, the balanced entity may clearly discern the appropriate and necessary responses in harmony with the Law of One for each situation.

Most entities on our planet find themselves unconsciously caught up into every emotional situation which they come in contact with according to their own unique biases and because of these biases are unable to see clearly teach/learning opportunities and appropriate response in each emotional situation and must therefore, through a process of much trial and error and enduring of resulting pain repeat such situations many many times until they become consciously aware of the need to balance their energy centers and thusly their responses and behaviors. Once a person becomes consciously aware of the need to balance their energy centers and responses the next step is to allow the appropriately positive or negative responses to emotional situations to flow smoothly through their being without retaining any of the emotional coloration after it has been consciously observed and allowed to flow through the being. And I am assuming that this ability to consciously observe the positively or negatively charged energy flowing through the being may be augmented by practice of the balancing exercises you have given us with the result in balance being achieved for the entity which would allow him to remain unemotional and undistorted in regards to the Law of One in any situation much like the objective viewer of the television movie.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an incorrect application of the balancing which we have discussed. The exercise of first experiencing feelings and then consciously discovering their antitheses within the being has as its objective not the smooth flow of feelings both positive and negative while remaining unswayed but rather the objective of becoming unswayed. This is a simpler result and takes much practice, shall we say.

The catalyst of experience works in order for the learn/teachings of this density to occur. However, if there is seen in the being a response, even if it is simply observed, the entity is still using the catalyst for learn/teaching. The end result is that the catalyst is no longer needed. Thus this density is no longer needed. This is not indifference or objectivity but a finely tuned compassion and love which sees all things as love. This seeing elicits no response due to catalytic reactions. Thus the entity is now able to become co-Creator of experiential occurrences. This is the truer balance.

42.4 ▶ Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?


Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

42.5 ▶ Questioner: In the illusion that we now experience it is difficult to maintain this response especially if the entity’s attack results in physical pain, but I assume that this response should be maintained even through physical loss of life or extreme pain. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and further is of a major or principal importance in understanding, shall we say, the principle of balance. Balance is not indifference but rather the observer not blinded by any feelings of separation but rather fully imbued with love.

So some discussion. For the perfectly balanced entity, the response to all things is love, not indifference. Love includes all the sub-types of love; understanding, acceptance, forgiveness, as well as many others. Now perfectly balanced entities probably are impossibly rare or don't exist, so even highly positive entities have some part of them that feels hate, rage, guilt etc in response to things, but in a near balanced entity, it's a minuscule part of the response. So many people on Earth use shame and guilt as the primary response to certain catalyst, and it does get things done - you hear people say all the time : "I felt guilty so I did X" "I felt ashamed so I did Y", but that sort of thinking and motivation drops away at higher states of being as the distortion of shame and guilt are recognized as not useful nor especially loving.

3. Ra's Quote on No Right or Wrong

1.7 ▶ Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]
Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

May we enunciate this law in more detail?

Recall that for most definitions of guilt or shame, they include the concept of one doing wrong. But right and wrong do not truly exist, even if in non-polarized 3D the concepts of right and wrong get a lot of work done, they too are concepts that are no longer useful in higher states of being. Also of importance to note is that the Law of One specifically notes you are every situation, every event, and every emotion. If you truly are every event, how can not everything that occurs be divine and without judgment?

My Own Experiences with Healing the Distortion of Guilt as a Workable Concept

So the Orange Sub-Indigo or the Indigo Sub-Orange energy rays relate to one as having infinite self-worth because you are literally the Creator. The Creator is divine, you are divine, you cannot do right or wrong, you can only do. There is no judgment. There just is the experience. This has been my most recent personal deep realization - I know we read about it all the time that we are the Creator, but when I had that realization in response to processing some guilt, man, I felt grace or divinely happy for 2 days straight and couldn't keep a smile off of my face lol. It was great. I hope to eventually get to a point where I can live in that state for longer, but at the moment, the illusion does feel pretty real. Time for more meditation!

[Cainite]

Thanks, xise.

I understand that it's not wise at all to feel shame for many things! like poverty or asking questions if confused. or making normal human mistakes in front of strangers. I experience this understanding a lot.

Guilt though seems different a bit.

Because as you said, the illusion seems quite real, the effects seem permanent.

[unity100]

The process is not different for a wanderer or a 3d entity or even for entities of lower densities:

After death, whatever higher resource the entity has, places the entity in a proper continuum. This may be a 6d physical incarnation for a 6d wanderer, another 3d wanderer incarnation to another 3d planet, or even some time to be spent in time/space. The 3d entity may get harvested or may repeat 3d. Even a 2d entity may be placed wherever it needs to be.

All levels will be participating in this planning in proportion to their level of spiritual advancement and awareness.

As for 'retaining 6d abilities' etc - things like remembering past lives, telepathy, this that are modified by the conditions on a given planet, the presence and the strength of the veil if it is a 3d planet, and the entity itself. Even if a 6d entity would be somehow allowed to incarnate to a 3d planet without getting affected by the veil, its 6d properties would be able to manifest only to the order that the conditions on the 3d planet would allow it. Since it is a heavier density than 6d.

Therefore natural place for 6d properties would be 6d. Natural place for 5d properties would be 5d. And so on.

[AnthroHeart]

As for 'retaining 6d abilities' etc - things like remembering past lives, telepathy, this that are modified by the conditions on a given planet, the presence and the strength of the veil if it is a 3d planet, and the entity itself. Even if a 6d entity would be somehow allowed to incarnate to a 3d planet without getting affected by the veil, its 6d properties would be able to manifest only to the order that the conditions on the 3d planet would allow it. Since it is a heavier density than 6d.

Therefore natural place for 6d properties would be 6d. Natural place for 5d properties would be 5d. And so on.

I don't know. Ra was 6D and was able to telepathically create the Great Pyramid. That doesn't sound like something only 3D would allow.

[unity100]

As for 'retaining 6d abilities' etc - things like remembering past lives, telepathy, this that are modified by the conditions on a given planet, the presence and the strength of the veil if it is a 3d planet, and the entity itself. Even if a 6d entity would be somehow allowed to incarnate to a 3d planet without getting affected by the veil, its 6d properties would be able to manifest only to the order that the conditions on the 3d planet would allow it. Since it is a heavier density than 6d.

Therefore natural place for 6d properties would be 6d. Natural place for 5d properties would be 5d. And so on.

I don't know. Ra was 6D and was able to telepathically create the Great Pyramid. That doesn't sound like something only 3D would allow.

At that time they were not incarnated then. They were here without going through the incarnation process. Using the power of their entire SMC.

[AnthroHeart]

As for 'retaining 6d abilities' etc - things like remembering past lives, telepathy, this that are modified by the conditions on a given planet, the presence and the strength of the veil if it is a 3d planet, and the entity itself. Even if a 6d entity would be somehow allowed to incarnate to a 3d planet without getting affected by the veil, its 6d properties would be able to manifest only to the order that the conditions on the 3d planet would allow it. Since it is a heavier density than 6d.

Therefore natural place for 6d properties would be 6d. Natural place for 5d properties would be 5d. And so on.

I don't know. Ra was 6D and was able to telepathically create the Great Pyramid. That doesn't sound like something only 3D would allow.

At that time they were not incarnated then. They were here without going through the incarnation process. Using the power of their entire SMC.

And they said that the Great Pyramid was metaphysical training wheels.

[loostudent]

As for 'retaining 6d abilities' etc - things like remembering past lives, telepathy, this that are modified by the conditions on a given planet, the presence and the strength of the veil if it is a 3d planet, and the entity itself. Even if a 6d entity would be somehow allowed to incarnate to a 3d planet without getting affected by the veil, its 6d properties would be able to manifest only to the order that the conditions on the 3d planet would allow it. Since it is a heavier density than 6d.

Therefore natural place for 6d properties would be 6d. Natural place for 5d properties would be 5d. And so on.

The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization.

[unity100]

As for 'retaining 6d abilities' etc - things like remembering past lives, telepathy, this that are modified by the conditions on a given planet, the presence and the strength of the veil if it is a 3d planet, and the entity itself. Even if a 6d entity would be somehow allowed to incarnate to a 3d planet without getting affected by the veil, its 6d properties would be able to manifest only to the order that the conditions on the 3d planet would allow it. Since it is a heavier density than 6d.

Therefore natural place for 6d properties would be 6d. Natural place for 5d properties would be 5d. And so on.

The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization.

Even for exceptions, the practical reality would not match theoretical possibility:

Which higher body can the entity activate? 5th? 6th? Where that higher body will activate?

If it activates in 5d of this planet, it wouldnt be manifesting in 3d. That is before the fact that this planet doesnt have a physical 5d yet, only astral (time/space).

Lets for a second imagine that, 'somehow' that higher body activated, and manifested in 3d.

Its going to manifest on top of existing 3d body? Is that even possible?

Even if it somehow manifested in a 'dimension shifted' manner (which is just hullaballo, garbage talk), that higher body is going to radiate higher frequency energy like an oven. How will the 3d body even stand that radiation which it was never built to withstand?

How will the entity itself even maintain 2 different bodies using its mind/spirit complex?

Let us say that the higher body didnt manifest in 3d, but only somehow manifested in a higher time/space dimension, like 5d astral of this planet. And, the entity is so, so strong and efficient that it is able to maintain 1 activated time/space 3d body, its activated 3d physical body counterpart, and 1 activated time/space 5 body.

And, somehow, the entity is, incredibly, managing to project its 5d energies radiating from its 5d astral body into 3d physical reality, and is able to effect some 5d phenomenon and paranormal phenomenon...

Then that singular entity will have to handle all the weight of manifesting that paranormal phenomenon in 3d: 3d is a less dense density, hence everything in 3d is heavier and less 'lively'. Even moving something with one's own 3d body designed to function in 3d body using its rules and functions is an effort. This time the entity will need to spend 5d energy to move or modify that 3d material. It will spend disproportionate amount of energy to effect that phenomenon compared to what it would cost to make it happen in 5d physical...

And the result would be things like moving something a little via telekinesis, or bending a spoon every now and then.

Even the bending-spoon concept involves asking the spoon to bend via intelligent infinity, and the spoon choosing to bend and take that different form for itself because it accepts to do it.

Ask the spoon to fly, it wont be able to - because the 'flying-state' is not a state built into the forms which the spoon can take as a 1d entity. You will have to make that happen via telekinesis, in lieu of the current setup and laws of 3d, and it will take considerable energy even if you can do it.

So all that could be done in 3d would be to occasionally manifest phenomenon at a considerable cost...

For any higher density phenomenon to be effect-able in any given environment, the environment itself must be at the same frequency, or similar frequencies. Hence the appropriateness of each density's phenomenon for that particular density...

[Ghostdancer17]

namaste guys, i am sure this must have been answered already but i can't find the answer anywhere.

the question is: what happens to a wanderer upon harvest? say a life of a wanderer ends and it was able to reach necessary service-to-others polarization, then what? it goes back to its home density and continues its path there seeing its earth assingment as one of many steps towards being closer to One Infinite Creator... OR ..it goes to 4th density positive?

This question was basically already answered. Your former supposition is correct. Let us take for example the Wanderer of Fourth or perhaps Fifth Density. This one of course incarnates into our Third Density Plane to offer its Love and Light and Service to Others. Upon the Transition called death, like all deaths, the Kundalini is extracted and the Mind/Spirit incorporates its Indigo Body or Etheric Body, the form maker. Here it will remain momentarily until it can be placed in the correct/appropriate True Color Vibratory locus, in this case the Green or Blue.

[Nau7ik]

I wanted to point out that only the body/mind complex of a wanderer is veiled, but the spirit complex is not. The first service of the wanderer is to the planet. This service is accomplished simply by the wanderer being incarnate. The radiance of the spirit complex affects the planet positively.
On a planet composed of mixed polarity, the opportunities for service are abundant, for both service to self and service to others.

This reminds me of the Significator of Spirit (XIX. The Sun). Ra says this:

80.17 ▶ Questioner: How would you describe the Significator of the Spirit?

Ra: I am Ra. In answer to the previous query we set about doing just this. The Significator of the Spirit is that living entity which either radiates or absorbs the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator, radiates it to others or absorbs it for the self.

92.18 ▶ Questioner: Turning, then, to my analogy or shall we say, example of the newborn infant with the undistorted Matrix, this newborn infant has its subconscious veiled from the Matrix. The second archetype, the Potentiator of Mind, is going to act at some time through— I won’t say through the veil, I don’t think that is a very good way of stating it, but the Potentiator of Mind will act to create a condition, and I will use an example of the infant touching a hot object. The hot object we could take as random catalyst. The infant can either leave its hand on the hot object or rapidly remove it. My question is, is the Potentiator of Mind involved at all in this experience and, if so, how?

Ra: I am Ra. The Potentiator of Mind and of Body are both involved in the questing of the infant for new experience. The mind/body/spirit complex which is an infant has one highly developed portion which may be best studied by viewing the Significators of Mind and Body. You notice we do not include the spirit. That portion of a mind/body/spirit complex is not reliably developed in each and every mind/body/spirit complex. Thusly the infant’s significant self, which is the harvest of biases of all previous incarnational experiences, offers to this infant biases with which to meet new experience.

However, the portion of the infant which may be articulated by the Matrix of the Mind is indeed unfed by experience and has the bias of reaching for this experience through free will just as intelligent energy in the kinetic phase, through free will, creates the Logos. This sub-sub-Logos, then, or that portion of the mind/body/spirit complex which may be articulated by consideration of the Potentiators of Mind and Body, through free will, chooses to make alterations in its experiential continuum. The results of these experiments in novelty are then recorded in the portion of the mind and body articulated by the Matrices thereof.