Polarity

[We are God]

Hey. This is my first post here; I'm a 23 year old mystic living on the east coast. I've scrolled through here briefly and did not see a discussion about polarity. I thought it may be a good idea to make a thread about this considering the current harvest. Anyway, I'd firstly like to thank you all for all that you've offered. Second, I have questions to ask of you, and some thoughts to share.

If your desire is to serve others, then by serving others aren't you ultimately serving yourself?
I imagine this is how a negative-oriented entity would interpret a positive entity's behavior.

If your desire is to serve yourself at the expense of others, then by doing so you are providing catalyst for others and in turn offering them service, are you not?
This question has already been somewhat validated by the material. It's a reverse of the first situation.

Anyway, the purpose of the above questions is to inspire contemplation and to lead in to this next question.
If service-to-self behavior provides service to others and service-to-others is ultimately self-serving, then how is it ever possible to achieve a grade of +51% service-to-others or +95% service-to-self?

We can extend this question further. There was an analogy in the material where the positive path was likened to that which radiates, and the negative to that which absorbs. My practice consists of absorbing then radiating love and light to all - afterall, how can you absorb forever or radiate forever? Isn't that akin to inhaling forever or exhaling forever? I do both - I absorb and radiate. I appreciate all of the different aspects of existence. However, this doesn't sound like +51% or +95%, does it? It sounds more like 50/50, which is a failing grade, isn't it?

I have another question. This one relating to a specific example given in the LOO. Ra spoke of a positive wanderer who incarnated on Venus during his third density cycle and, in the desire to serving others, found the so-called negative path to be more fruitful for this purpose. This entity was then harvested in a negative orientation. If this entity did this to serve others, how was this entity harvest-able in such a way?

[GentleReckoning]

You can serve yourself, or serve others and balance positively.

The primary distortion of the STS path is the belief that love is a commodity. That there is a finite amount of it.

The illumination of the STO path is that all is love and by loving we allow more into our lives.

It matters not who you love. You will find the creator wherever you look.

[We are God]

I agree. I don't just love you, though, I love myself too. I make no discrepancy between so-called self and other-self. While speaking, yes, I make make distinctions, such as 'I', 'me', 'you', but this is for the sake of formality and nothing more. There is no me, no you; there is only us - 'We are God', as my name would say. So, with this in mind, how is service-to-others or service-to-self possible? To serve one is to serve all, and to serve all is to serve each and every one.

[Aureus]

The polarity is not a ratio based on the sum of actions you make. It's a measurement, observation of your energy centers. The heart/throat center is of a radiating nature. It is your ability to give without expecting back, your genuine acceptance and love for other-selves. When sufficiently developed, it will make you go >50% STO. The lower, more physical energies, root-solar plexus, does not radiate. They stop and level with your skin.

The heart will cause your hands and arms to radiate. You can test this yourself by pointing a finger towards the opposing palm, if you're sensitive enough, you'll feel a slight fuzzy/buzzy sensation. A sign of high amounts of this energy can manifest itself as very thich hair upon your head.

[Siren]

If service-to-self behavior provides service to others and service-to-others is ultimately self-serving, then how is it ever possible to achieve a grade of +51% service-to-others or +95% service-to-self?

My practice consists of absorbing then radiating love and light to all - afterall, how can you absorb forever or radiate forever? Isn't that akin to inhaling forever or exhaling forever?

I totally get what you're saying because I see it the same way myself. Forget the percentages and the concepts of STO and STS altogether, or the radiant and absorbent analogies (after all, isn't the Creator both radiant and absorbent in Its creative fluxes too, as it breathes out and unfolds the Creation and breathes it in and folds back all into Itself again? Remember, the ultimate gravity well is a black hole—an inwardly turned star that absorbs rather than radiates). Look at it this way, in relation to the mind/body/spirit complex and its relationship with the rest of Creation:

Prior to the veiling experiment the only service that could be contemplated was service to One/Self/All There Is. There was no "polarity" as such since a «polarity», by its very definition, requires two opposite poles to be functional (I mean, you can't have a one-sided magnet—polarity implies two ends by definition).

After the veil, however, the polarity game emerged; a dual way of seeking, and thus serving the Creator. The simplest way to see it, in my humble subjective opinion, is that the negative polarity seeks to serve and glorify the micro-cosmic self to the utmost (this at the expense of subduing other-selves in the process), whereas the positive polarity seeks to serve and glorify the macro-cosmic self (this explains the bias towards serving other-selves, sometimes even to the extent of martyrdom).

This allows an unimaginable richness of experience as the dynamic tension between positive and negative offers immense learning opportunities for the Creator. Eventually, at some point in the dance, the negative pole must meet the positive and vice versa, and thus reconcile the duality: the positive must integrate the negative and the negative must allow itself to be integrated into unity.

Ra spoke of a positive wanderer who incarnated on Venus during his third density cycle and, in the desire to serving others, found the so-called negative path to be more fruitful for this purpose. This entity was then harvested in a negative orientation. If this entity did this to serve others, how was this entity harvest-able in such a way?

The entity's original intention prior to incarnation was to polarize positively, not negatively. However, take into account the the veil of forgetting in Venus' 3rd density. Over the course of its lifetime(s) the entity was assaulted by various catalysts which it chose to use to polarize itself negatively and thus achieve graduation in like manner.

The veil of forgetting is a very interesting phenomenon.

[Wander-Man]

Hey. This is my first post here; I'm a 23 year old mystic living on the east coast. I've scrolled through here briefly and did not see a discussion about polarity. I thought it may be a good idea to make a thread about this considering the current harvest. Anyway, I'd firstly like to thank you all for all that you've offered. Second, I have questions to ask of you, and some thoughts to share.

If your desire is to serve others, then by serving others aren't you ultimately serving yourself?
I imagine this is how a negative-oriented entity would interpret a positive entity's behavior.

If your desire is to serve yourself at the expense of others, then by doing so you are providing catalyst for others and in turn offering them service, are you not?
This question has already been somewhat validated by the material. It's a reverse of the first situation.

Anyway, the purpose of the above questions is to inspire contemplation and to lead in to this next question.
If service-to-self behavior provides service to others and service-to-others is ultimately self-serving, then how is it ever possible to achieve a grade of +51% service-to-others or +95% service-to-self?

We can extend this question further. There was an analogy in the material where the positive path was likened to that which radiates, and the negative to that which absorbs. My practice consists of absorbing then radiating love and light to all - afterall, how can you absorb forever or radiate forever? Isn't that akin to inhaling forever or exhaling forever? I do both - I absorb and radiate. I appreciate all of the different aspects of existence. However, this doesn't sound like +51% or +95%, does it? It sounds more like 50/50, which is a failing grade, isn't it?

I have another question. This one relating to a specific example given in the LOO. Ra spoke of a positive wanderer who incarnated on Venus during his third density cycle and, in the desire to serving others, found the so-called negative path to be more fruitful for this purpose. This entity was then harvested in a negative orientation. If this entity did this to serve others, how was this entity harvest-able in such a way?

It may help to look at it from an acceptance vs. control viewpoint - how many of your thoughts are based on control vs. how many of your thoughts are based on acceptance.


You're absorbing energy from intelligent infinity, and radiating it, channeling it, whereas a negative adept will absorb energy from intelligent infinity and other selves.

P.S. Welcome to the forums!

[xise]

In addition to the absorption/radiation discussion, I think the good way to understand the whole STO/STS is via the energy centers. STS is red/orange/yellow and indigo, whereas STO is all colors. The type of love you feel in the green ray is different than the type of love in the yellow or orange, and I think it's what you feel/vibrate when are being if service that makes a big difference.

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

[zenmaster]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

[GentleReckoning]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

Because it's impossible to do anything else.

This allows reality to reflect your vibration back to you and to allow you the opportunity to learn wisdom. Through wisdom, we can clear distortions that anchor us to a denser reality. Without these anchors, we quite naturally will rise in our vibration until we are ready to ascend.

[zenmaster]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

Because it's impossible to do anything else.

On the contrary, I'd say it's quite possible to not have great honesty.

[xise]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

I can only speak from experience I gathered in my journey, but without great honesty it was hard to differentiate between the desires of my mind/ego, and the natural vibration of my being.

My mind/ego, being more of a product of society, parents, culture, peer influences, wanted one thing, and I naturally vibrated at another. Because I was not honest with where my desires lay, and where these feelings came from, it took me much more time to discover where my deep being lied on the scale of selfishness versus selflessness. I basically grew up with a deep part of me being very unconditionally loving, and yet my mind/ego which wanted to dominate and have power. Because I did not properly analyze with honesty where these came from, I choose a path where I attempted to become more negative. This failed miserably in terms of bringing peace to my being, and it was only after the increased discomfort I felt in being very selfish for a period of years that I realized my error.

In the end, I always felt different. Before, I used to think I felt different because there was a struggle in me for pure power, and there was a part of me that just wanted to love and accept all. I felt it was this internal struggle that set me apart from other lawyers, who were purely about power (for the most part). So I attempt with great focus to become purely selfish. I felt like s***, but my mind/ego reassured me because it succeeded in material goals - I won more cases, I bullied more opposing attorneys, I got more respect from certain colleagues, I moved up faster in the office, I was seen as more alpha and dominating and that was a good thing. At some point, I realized that the reason I felt like crap and this did not bring me happiness was because I got my egoic desires mixed up with my true being, and that it was being peaceful and loving that brought me happiness even if it resulted in less material things such as success - cases won, respect in the office, and being less of an icon.

The lack of honest probably delayed my conscious and active positive polarization by at least 5 years. On the other hand, there are no mistakes, and looking back things occurred exactly as they needed to occur for me to get to where I am now. I only wonder if I had been introduced to the concepts of this thread, among many others on the forum, whether I would have made the realization earlier. But I suppose there is a certain surety and strength of actual experience of a catalytic lesson that will hopefully ensure such confusion will be less likely to happen in any future incarnation!

The mind/ego is quite a seductive creature. It will tell you what you want to hear, what you desire to hear, all the while making you believe that this is truly what you want...of this, I feel I have learned the hard way. I try to take with great skepticism anything my mind/ego desires, as that has helped me with being honest with the self.

In any case, all is well, I suppose

[zenmaster]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

I can only speak from experience I gathered in my journey, but without great honesty it was hard to differentiate between the desires of my mind/ego, and the natural vibration of my being.

Is your claim that it's all about honesty, itself, an honest statement? Or is it a product of failure to differentiate between the desire of your mind/ego and natural vibration of your being?

[Ankh]

Hi "We are God",

And welcome to this forum!

Here are the threads on Bring4th about polarity:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/search.ph...order=desc

Here are the threads on Bring4th about polarization:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/search.ph...order=desc

And here are the threads about STS and STO:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/search.ph...order=desc

If your desire is to serve others, then by serving others aren't you ultimately serving yourself?

Yes, you do:

However, service to others results in service to self...

If your desire is to serve yourself at the expense of others, then by doing so you are providing catalyst for others and in turn offering them service, are you not?

My personal understanding is - yes, you do, but there is a difference. The difference lies in that on the positive path the service provided to others is of most benefit to others, while on the negative path the service provided is of most benefit to the self. On this Ra said:

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

Thus, you have two simple directives: awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in nature, awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in self to be shared, when it seems appropriate, by the entity with the social complex, and you have one infinitely subtle and various set of distortions of which you may be aware; that is, distortions with respect to self and other-selves not concerning free will but concerning harmonious relationships and service to others as other-selves would most benefit.

We can extend this question further. There was an analogy in the material where the positive path was likened to that which radiates, and the negative to that which absorbs. My practice consists of absorbing then radiating love and light to all - afterall, how can you absorb forever or radiate forever? Isn't that akin to inhaling forever or exhaling forever? I do both - I absorb and radiate. I appreciate all of the different aspects of existence. However, this doesn't sound like +51% or +95%, does it? It sounds more like 50/50, which is a failing grade, isn't it?

As I understand it: you absorb the light of the Creator, what is your intention of what to do with it then? To absorb it for yourself? Or to radiate it and share it with others? If your intention is to absorb it for yourself, then you need to do it to 95% in order to graduate to the next density. If your intention and desire to share it and radiate it to others, then you need to do to at least 51% in order to graduate to the positive path.

I have another question. This one relating to a specific example given in the LOO. Ra spoke of a positive wanderer who incarnated on Venus during his third density cycle and, in the desire to serving others, found the so-called negative path to be more fruitful for this purpose. This entity was then harvested in a negative orientation. If this entity did this to serve others, how was this entity harvest-able in such a way?

They were actually two Wanderers who incarnated on Venus with a pre-incarnative desire to be of service to those who found overabudant love on Venus sickening. They intended to serve those entities in a more wisdom-oriented way, but instead harvested themselves into negative path during their incarnation.

First one entity began its work. Quickly the second found the first. These entities had agreed to serve together and so they did, glorifying the One Creator, but not as they intended. About them were soon gathered those who found it easy to believe that a series of specific knowledges and wisdoms would advance one towards the Creator. The end of this was the graduation into fourth-density negative of the Wanderers, which had much power of personality, and some small deepening of the negatively polarized element of those not polarizing positively. There was no negative harvest as such.

You can read more about it here:

http://lawofone.info/results.php?s=89#27

[xise]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

I can only speak from experience I gathered in my journey, but without great honesty it was hard to differentiate between the desires of my mind/ego, and the natural vibration of my being.

Is your claim that it's all about honesty, itself, an honest statement? Or is it a product of failure to differentiate between the desire of your mind/ego and natural vibration of your being?

I wasn't being honest with myself. And many I know in real life who spiritual seeking, often struggle with being honest with themselves.

But perhaps it's an overstatement to say that key to the STS/STO decision is honesty - because in a certain sense, much like Ra states, I feel in retrospect my own STS/STO decision was made prior to it being consciously chosen.

So indeed perhaps it's better to say honesty is key to more rapid polarization, rather than the essential element in making the choice.

[GentleReckoning]

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

Why is that?

Because it's impossible to do anything else.

On the contrary, I'd say it's quite possible to not have great honesty.

You can only be dishonest with yourself. Nobody else cares. They're too busy being dishonest with themselves.

When you begin to see yourself honestly, you learn that you create your reality.

Reality doesn't care either way.

[zenmaster]

If this entity did this to serve others, how was this entity harvest-able in such a way?

Because the STO intention from the perspective prior to incarnation was untenable when faced with reality.

[Meerie]

The heart will cause your hands and arms to radiate. You can test this yourself by pointing a finger towards the opposing palm, if you're sensitive enough, you'll feel a slight fuzzy/buzzy sensation. A sign of high amounts of this energy can manifest itself as very thich hair upon your head.

Heart energy can manifest as thick hair upon your head?
can you elaborate on that?
thanks

[Aureus]

The heart will cause your hands and arms to radiate. You can test this yourself by pointing a finger towards the opposing palm, if you're sensitive enough, you'll feel a slight fuzzy/buzzy sensation. A sign of high amounts of this energy can manifest itself as very thich hair upon your head.

Heart energy can manifest as thick hair upon your head?
can you elaborate on that?
thanks

The thymus is responsible for hair thickness(among other things), and is included in your heart energies (lime). Apparently, womens thymus grows during pregnancy which temporarily results in thicker/shinier hair. This might be true for nails as well.

[We are God]

Thank you for the enlightening responses.

In the end it's all about vibrating at the level that's comes naturally to you, with great honesty.

I am still trying to discover who I am. This is what it's all about, in my opinion. The most important thing is to listen to reality; when you listen you become wise. When you stop listening however, you again become ignorant. This is the story of my life.

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

On one level, I understand completely. On another level, this confuses me greatly. I don't just view family as self - I view all as self. I am you. I am Ra. I am all things. This doesn't seem like the beginning of the road; in fact, there doesn't seem to be any road at all. Everything is a vibration, a movement; there is only movement - but since there is only movement and no other possibility, there is actually never any movement at all - does this make sense?

[Aureus]

It's not only about realizing oneness on a conceptual basis. One could accept being part of one great being, but still not "live" it. Even the darkest of STS-entities can have this knowledge/belief.

Only when the one begins to cultivate an acceptance free of any conditions, will polarity be gained. It's about seeing the self in everything, not limited to realizing one's place in a system and therefore contribute.

That is the beginning of the road to full realization, the heart is the springboard..

[Ankh]

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

On one level, I understand completely. On another level, this confuses me greatly. I don't just view family as self - I view all as self. I am you. I am Ra. I am all things. This doesn't seem like the beginning of the road; in fact, there doesn't seem to be any road at all. Everything is a vibration, a movement; there is only movement - but since there is only movement and no other possibility, there is actually never any movement at all - does this make sense?

No.

[Parsons]

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

On one level, I understand completely. On another level, this confuses me greatly. I don't just view family as self - I view all as self. I am you. I am Ra. I am all things. This doesn't seem like the beginning of the road; in fact, there doesn't seem to be any road at all. Everything is a vibration, a movement; there is only movement - but since there is only movement and no other possibility, there is actually never any movement at all - does this make sense?

I can see how this would confuse you if taken out of context of the quote. The 'road' of which they speak is referred to the negative path. Viewing the country, the tribe, the biological family as the same as self is an extension of 2nd density thinking. The 2nd density entity views the 'pack' or group of 2nd density beings a LITERALLY themselves, i.e. a predator attacking a packmate is attacking the entity itself, not an 'other' entity. The quote expresses the departure point at which someone is simply 'protecting the pack' by protecting the country-mate in 2nd density thinking and switches over to actual 3rd density STS / the Choice of the negative path/polarity of seeing other entities as 'other' and choosing to control them for the benefit of self.

[We are God]

I can see how this would confuse you if taken out of context of the quote. The 'road' of which they speak is referred to the negative path. Viewing the country, the tribe, the biological family as the same as self is an extension of 2nd density thinking. The 2nd density entity views the 'pack' or group of 2nd density beings a LITERALLY themselves, i.e. a predator attacking a packmate is attacking the entity itself, not an 'other' entity. The quote expresses the departure point at which someone is simply 'protecting the pack' by protecting the country-mate in 2nd density thinking and switches over to actual 3rd density STS / the Choice of the negative path/polarity of seeing other entities as 'other' and choosing to control them for the benefit of self.

Thank you for the clarification, though this is the part that I already understand. I understand that the quote was referring to the beings, especially the more primitive ones of this density, which operate within the illusion in such a way. I was trying to extrapolate from this and I think this was my error.

It's not only about realizing oneness on a conceptual basis. One could accept being part of one great being, but still not "live" it. Even the darkest of STS-entities can have this knowledge/belief.

Only when the one begins to cultivate an acceptance free of any conditions, will polarity be gained. It's about seeing the self in everything, not limited to realizing one's place in a system and therefore contribute.

That is the beginning of the road to full realization, the heart is the springboard..

I had a very interesting experience in late 2010. I was in a very deep trance state, the ego was completely dissolved, and I then came into contact with a higher dimensional being. This entity was positive in nature and it was a very blissful experience. While I'm not entirely sure the identity of this being, in hindsight it appears as though it was what you would call the higher self. I learned very much, whoever it was. The understanding of oneness, from this point onward, was not conceptual - it is visceral, it is real. I have understood this to be the truth and the apparent reality of separation to be illusory; though since I am still operating within the framework of the illusion, the understanding is at times diminished to a conceptual level. As I've said in an earlier post, I enjoy all aspects of reality - both the illusion and what lies behind the curtain, so to speak - there is value in both.

Acceptance free of any conditions is a very good point you make - total acceptance is how I reached such a deep trance state to begin with. It was through the methodology of what is called tantra, which, to oversimplify, is completely about acceptance and 'letting go'.

There is one more thing I'd like to add about that specific experience. I was asked whether or not I would like to return. I chose to to help awaken others. I chose the path of Bodhisattva. My polarity, at that time, was almost purely positive; it has since diminished though I still seem to be innately oriented towards service to others, even if sometimes I falter.

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

On one level, I understand completely. On another level, this confuses me greatly. I don't just view family as self - I view all as self. I am you. I am Ra. I am all things. This doesn't seem like the beginning of the road; in fact, there doesn't seem to be any road at all. Everything is a vibration, a movement; there is only movement - but since there is only movement and no other possibility, there is actually never any movement at all - does this make sense?

No.

Haha. I see - it is something which is very difficult to describe in words. I will attempt to explain.

In each moment, we are either ascending or descending, so to speak; we are either becoming more human or more machine-like, more mindful or more mindless. We are never still - stillness is an illusion. This is simple enough to understand, isn't it?

The only possibility is that we move in one direction or another, the only possibility is that we change. Change is the only constant, but this is where it gets interesting - since there is only change and that fact never changes, change can be said to not exist at all - change is actually the illusion.

So, on one level, there is only change and stillness is illusory; on another level, there is only stillness and change is illusory. It seems paradoxical because both are simultaneously true, but it is more akin to polarity. The reality is change, which is often related to the feminine - it is a dancing. Within this feminine reality is the masculine, which is the unchanging and steady. The 'seen' is the feminine and the 'seer' is the masculine; the 'world' is the feminine and the 'witness' is the masculine.

I hope this makes more sense.

[JustLikeYou]

The effect of service is that the Creator is served. Too much emphasis has been placed on the effects, however. The important difference between STO and STS is not in effect, but in intention. Each provides a certain method or programme of service. The orientation of each programme revolves around a particular kind of service. That the net effect is service to all is of no consequence to walking forward on either path.

[zenmaster]

The effect of service is that the Creator is served. Too much emphasis has been placed on the effects, however. The important difference between STO and STS is not in effect, but in intention. Each provides a certain method or programme of service. The orientation of each programme revolves around a particular kind of service. That the net effect is service to all is of no consequence to walking forward on either path.

Yeah, the effects of STO interaction aren't an important consideration at all... It's the intention that matters. No, I'm afraid it's not that simple. But in the make-believe, fantasy world where "the power of intention" is discovered, it is indeed. And so we do our best.

"The peoples of Maldek had a civilization somewhat similar to that of the societal complex known to you as Atlantis in that it gained much technological information and used it without care for the preservation of their sphere following to a majority extent the complex of thought, ideas, and actions which you may associate with your so-called negative polarity or the service to self. This was, however, for the most part, couched in a sincere belief/thought structure which seemed to the perception of the mind/body complexes of this sphere to be positive and of service to others. The devastation that wracked their biosphere and caused its disintegration resulted from what you call war."

[Wander-Man]

You will know a tree by its fruit

[Ankh]

Haha. I see - it is something which is very difficult to describe in words. I will attempt to explain.

In each moment, we are either ascending or descending, so to speak; we are either becoming more human or more machine-like, more mindful or more mindless. We are never still - stillness is an illusion. This is simple enough to understand, isn't it?

The only possibility is that we move in one direction or another, the only possibility is that we change. Change is the only constant, but this is where it gets interesting - since there is only change and that fact never changes, change can be said to not exist at all - change is actually the illusion.

So, on one level, there is only change and stillness is illusory; on another level, there is only stillness and change is illusory. It seems paradoxical because both are simultaneously true, but it is more akin to polarity. The reality is change, which is often related to the feminine - it is a dancing. Within this feminine reality is the masculine, which is the unchanging and steady. The 'seen' is the feminine and the 'seer' is the masculine; the 'world' is the feminine and the 'witness' is the masculine.

I hope this makes more sense.

I understand what you are saying per se, but trying to follow you to the original question which was:

If your desire is to serve yourself at the expense of others, then by doing so you are providing catalyst for others and in turn offering them service, are you not?

So, if I am to connect your previous thoughts to the above question, then what you are asking is: if there is a paradox in serving others or the self, because either service results also in the opposite service. Is this correct?

If so, then I would agree, but to a certain extent, as I see that there is still a difference. If I am negatively polarized fifth density entity, then I would enjoy causing pain to those of third density whose distortions or pre-incarnative choices allow me to energize/accentuate these distortions. The entity greeted by me would then experience pain. Am I not of service to this entity? Are my efforts not of most benefit to this entity? Well, I don't know, brother, but this is what happened to L/L group when they were channeling Ra. Fourth density tried to tempt each entity in the group, but failed, because the group continued to serve others. So there were no entries into the mind and spirit complexes of those three, as I understand it. This caught attention and interest of fifth density negative friend. This entity noted that the most vulnerable was Carla because of her pre-incarnative physical complex distortions. It then energized these distortions, causing pain and all kind of difficulties to her.

As Ra said, some enjoy picnic of sunshine and joy, while others enjoy another sort of picnic, of sufferings of others, examination of the perversities of nature, difficulties and pain. But both serve the One Creator, sure. There is nothing else to serve. Ra said that it is impossible not to serve the Creator, *but* that there *are* various distortions of this service.

Not sure that this is what you were asking, but I tried.

Yeah, the effects of STO interaction aren't an important consideration at all... It's the intention that matters. No, I'm afraid it's not that simple. But in the make-believe, fantasy world where "the power of intention" is discovered, it is indeed. And so we do our best.

"The peoples of Maldek had a civilization somewhat similar to that of the societal complex known to you as Atlantis in that it gained much technological information and used it without care for the preservation of their sphere following to a majority extent the complex of thought, ideas, and actions which you may associate with your so-called negative polarity or the service to self. This was, however, for the most part, couched in a sincere belief/thought structure which seemed to the perception of the mind/body complexes of this sphere to be positive and of service to others. The devastation that wracked their biosphere and caused its disintegration resulted from what you call war."

Good point! I also thought that it was all about the intention, but you are right. It is not that simple.

Not only Maldekians had a perception of being of service to others, while in fact they were of service to self, this happened to Egyptian priests too (Ra, 60.29). But this is veiled third density. You can think something, but many times find that you were simply wrong in your belief. So let's look at those who are not velied and confused, the Confederation, and specifically at their intention:

In the Egyptian and the South American experiments results, though not as widely devastating, were as far from the original intention of the Confederation. It was clear to not only us but also to the Council and the Guardians that our methods were not appropriate for this particular sphere.

Our attitude thus was one of caution, observation, and continuing attempts to creatively discover methods whereby contact from our entities could be of service with the least distortion and above all with the least possibility of becoming perversions or antitheses of our intentions in sharing information.

We found that the technology was reserved largely for those with the effectual mind/body distortion of power. This was not intended by the Law of One. We left your peoples. The group that was to work with those in the area of South America, as you call that portion of your sphere, gave up not so easily. They returned. We did not.

So several Confederation entities in their attempts to aid this planet, found that the results went far from their intention. And they have to keep working with these unintentional results, until it is balanced:

We remind you that we are one of the naïve members of that Confederation and are still attempting to recoup the damage for which we feel responsibility. It is our duty as well as honor to continue with your peoples, therefore, until all traces of the distortions of our teach/learnings have been embraced by their opposite distortions, and balance achieved.

As in our experience the teachings were, for the most part, greatly and grossly perverted to the extent in later times of actual human sacrifice rather than healing of humans. Thus, this social memory complex is also given the honor/duty of remaining until those distortions are worked out of the distortion complexes of your peoples.

[Bring4th_Austin]

Exactly what role does intention play in determining polarity?

[Aureus]

Exactly what role does intention play in determining polarity?

I suppose it completely depends from where the action springs, whether there are conditions in the foundation or not. If the action is a direct result of a desire to freely give love, the intention is of non-controlling elements. For an attempt to perfectly transfer this energy, there can be no blockage in the heart.

[xise]

Intent is important. But the means you go about attempting to manifest your intent into reality is also important.

The intent, the means, and the end are all important.