I'm Tired

[Adonai One]

I am manifesting improbable events in my life through the magical arts. I am forming thought-forms through focused mediation and I am nearing an ability at astral travel.

Yet I required no blind, absolute faith in the unknown. I just let it come to me through an open yet skeptical mind.

This is science, ladies and gentlemen. Atlantis knew this. It was a grand time to be alive. It's a shame they blew themselves up.

[BrownEye]

I find it hilarious that you are actually serious.

Well, in reality it is your 'perception' that you find hilarious. You create the perception with the choosing from your past, which is memory. At a certain level you are laughing at yourself.

What you may find in the future is that there is room for every single belief that can possibly be thought of. (in fact every belief is true) The differences are really just whether they can be applied to growth.

[Hototo]

I know you're in here evil Ego Ogre! Come out!

[Jade]

Perhaps, Adonai, maybe you should consider how very open you are about your own magical processes, alongside the consistency with which you deny the validity of others'. This is where the friction lies and where I think some self-reflection needs to be done on why you are in this loop.

[Hototo]

I hear someone is looking for me.

(If the joke still escapes, please spend more time with loved ones)

[Adonai One]

Perhaps, Adonai, maybe you should consider how very open you are about your own magical processes, alongside the consistency with which you deny the validity of others'. This is where the friction lies and where I think some self-reflection needs to be done on why you are in this loop.

I've only made the unwise descision of discovering the inner-thoughts and polarity of the majority of this forum. My curiosity is insatiable, to say the least.

[Spaced]

This is science, ladies and gentlemen. Atlantis knew this. It was a grand time to be alive. It's a shame they blew themselves up.

lol

How much do you remember about the last few centuries of Atlantis? Why do you think they blew themselves up?

[Adonai One]

I don't remember squat, quite frankly. I have very faint visions of my time spent there. It seems I tried to help, heh.

[BrownEye]

How much do you remember about the last few centuries of Atlantis? Why do you think they blew themselves up?

First laugh of the day for me.

[Hototo]

Why did atlantis blow itself up?

Wouldnt know. I wasnt there this morning and beyond anything this morning I cant know for sure. IF you want me to take a quess right now I would have to say the royal palace ran out of biscuit and they blew up.

But to be serious, the reason they blew themselves up? They were attempting to alter the basic flow of time or to remove someone/something from there, to prevent a disaster that will eventually eliminate most of humanity regardless of what most/all of use do, due to the nature of how life spreads. They failed and died.

But thats just my leading theory which may or may not be related to anything you have going.

[Jade]

Perhaps, Adonai, maybe you should consider how very open you are about your own magical processes, alongside the consistency with which you deny the validity of others'. This is where the friction lies and where I think some self-reflection needs to be done on why you are in this loop.

I've only made the unwise descision of discovering the inner-thoughts and polarity of the majority of this forum. My curiosity is insatiable, to say the least.

And how are you using that knowledge to serve us? And, presuming you received this information from your "secret" source, could you see how this might feel a bit like a free-will infringement upon some of your other-selves?

[Adonai One]

Perhaps, Adonai, maybe you should consider how very open you are about your own magical processes, alongside the consistency with which you deny the validity of others'. This is where the friction lies and where I think some self-reflection needs to be done on why you are in this loop.

I've only made the unwise descision of discovering the inner-thoughts and polarity of the majority of this forum. My curiosity is insatiable, to say the least.

And how are you using that knowledge to serve us? And, presuming you received this information from your "secret" source, could you see how this might feel a bit like a free-will infringement upon some of your other-selves?

I am not the one making demands. This conversation simply started with a derision of how I express myself and who I am.

It only becomes infringement at a certain point. I've yet to hit it. Although I've hit a barrier that marks a lack of wisdom.

If people lack enough confidence in their faith, ideals and themselves that they become irritated by just who I am, it seems there is a certain call for introspection. It doesn't have to do with me changing who I am.

[BrownEye]

And how are you using that knowledge to serve us? And, presuming you received this information from your "secret" source, could you see how this might feel a bit like a free-will infringement upon some of your other-selves?

Technically privacy is an illusion.

What he needs understand is that he needs to have developed a very strong relationship with the correct streams of energy, or he will be relying on a stream that simply offers everything he wants to believe. This can devolve into delusion if not careful.

This tends to be automatic 'falsing' if we frame perceptions with judgement. The real connections are enabled when done through the frame of 'Highest Good For All', not just the words, but the intentions.

As AO has mentioed earlier, it is possible to learn accuracy through the use of group validation. I found it best to validate through a wide range of talented and professional psychics and clairvoyants.

[Adonai One]

My friend, you do not even have a grasp of my systems of understanding. The last thing that will be caught in my system as I leave this rock is a trace of delusion.

My biases are known. I know myself to a significant degree and I am not one to think I know what's best for people.

However, your honesty and expressions are admired. Please continue to deride me if that is your will.

[Sagittarius]

Gonna have to start giving examples of posts that contain this separation or dissent or aggrandizement of magical practice. If you feel an emotional reaction to something someone posts for any reason that is on you not them and it's your understanding you need to shift or develop.

[Parsons]

Gonna have to start giving examples of posts that contain this separation or dissent or aggrandizement of magical practice. If you feel an emotional reaction to something someone posts for any reason that is on you not them and it's your understanding you need to shift or develop.

This one. The overall gist of your post that I am perceiving is "prove it or it doesn't exist", "change yourself because your line of reasoning is faulty".

[BrownEye]

Please continue to deride me if that is your will.

I am not deriding you. Just curious as to whether your perception can be more harmonized.

I know that I am not my perception, and that I am a mental/physical expression of an illusion. I will enjoy it, but I try to enjoy it in a more consensus/helpful manner. (healing arts/tool creation, therapy, etc) I am simply wondering if you can somehow manage your abilities into a more useful force for the 'All'.

[Jeremy]

My friend, you do not even have a grasp of my systems of understanding. The last thing that will be caught in my system as I leave this rock is a trace of delusion.

My biases are known. I know myself to a significant degree and I am not one to think I know what's best for people.

However, your honesty and expressions are admired. Please continue to deride me if that is your will.

It's not about deriding you or even judging you brother. It's about guiding such a young evolving ever accelerant disciple of the Law of One. I have always appreciated your thought provoking threads as its created a much more flowing message board than before. But as others have noted, that there is an aura of superiority that you at times seem to project to where I wonder if you're intentions are out of an act of service or simply personal attainment of power.

I have always sensed amazing potential within you brother but as I have said before, I sincerely hope you tread carefully upon your path so as to not be misguided or led astray. I nor anyone here can tell you where or how you should go about this but we all sincerely hope that you continue your path but with a little more tact and openness to how others express their own path also.

[Jade]

My friend, you do not even have a grasp of my systems of understanding. The last thing that will be caught in my system as I leave this rock is a trace of delusion.

My biases are known. I know myself to a significant degree and I am not one to think I know what's best for people.

However, your honesty and expressions are admired. Please continue to deride me if that is your will.

There is no derision here for you my friend, only love. Many apologies if you perceive otherwise. You have spoken your preference for discussion at what I consider a yellow-ray level, where one picks and separates at what the illusion calls flaws. For what it's worth I had no idea this conversation was about you until you admitted it, at which point I thought I might ask you questions to ponder and give you things to consider, on the contrary side.

I see absolutely nothing wrong, just my own attempts at yellow/green balance and participating in a teach/learn moment at the style most preferred by the student.

[Adonai One]

Heh. Somebody please show me a post where I have directly attacked a member of this forum. You will not find one.

Yes I do not have "tact" nor "politeness." I am simply honest.

I walk the left-hand path. That is probably the source of my "arrogance." Although I have no desire to control anyone. My polarity remains positive.

[Hototo]

How about you all take a step back and know we're in the density of not knowing.

Edit: seems a disproportionate amount of knowings in a density where knowings cant be true in the end.... And to get out of one must admit that one cant/doesnt know.

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[Spaced]

Much love to all the seekers out there!

[Jade]

*pirouettes back to the wallflower position*

[reeay]

Love bomb

[Hototo]

*pirouettes back to the wallflower position*

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1659337/ The perks of being in that position.

[Parsons]

*pirouettes back to the wallflower position*

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1659337/ The perks of being in that position.

Going to watch that... What set me over the edge for deciding to watch it is the movie poster says "WE ARE INFINITE" in the center.

[Jeremy]

Though such hashing out ultimately has its positive outcomes, maybe We should coordinate a healing type group meditation soon. Maybe the collective love through such a coordinated event will ultimately bring more harmony to the forums ?

[Bring4th_Austin]

Dear Friends,

I feel it is an appopriate time to pop in and ask the members of this discussion the remember the purpose of this community, specifically as outlined by the forum guidelines. Drawing attention to the first and grandest guideline:

1) Respect. Compassion. Loving-kindness. Empathy. Trust. Goodwill. Desire to serve. Embracing each other. Opening our heart. Participants are asked to keep the thought in the forefront of their minds at all times that each on this forum IS the Creator. Please keep communication respectful at all times and in all ways. The participant may disagree to the bone with an idea without personally attacking the author of the idea. Please remember that we are all here to expand our knowledge, deepen our understanding, and support one another by reflecting our divinity to each other. We are One being -- we are not here to forget the real.

It is very important that members be able to share their experiences, thoughts, beliefs, and heart without coming under personal scrutiny of the community. Please keep all participation focused on the content of a post rather than the author of that content.

If there is an agreement between members to openly discuss their personal perceptions as the holder of these biases, the thread "Cognitive Distortions and Forum Relationships" has served as a catch-all for those who wish to air their feelings towards others. Please note that if someone doesn't want to enter a discussion of their personal self then the person should not be the topic for discussion.

I would also like to offer some thoughts on the nature of disagreement. The very purpose of the experiment of the veil is to allow for the illusion of creator against creator. Were we all to agree and be in harmony over every aspect of exploration and discussion, there would be very little growth to be had. This type of friction allows for a depth of personal self-exploration which is paramount to our existence in this realm.

Especially for those of positive polarity, seemingly negative catalyst is rich experience for movement of consciousness. We tend to perceive negativity more than positivity, and for a good reason. When seemingly negative catalyst may be interpreted to be positive, the bright light of the Creator shines in the darkest depths of the Creation and is known where it previously was not. We all have the opportunity and ability to allow the light of the Creator to shine through in any darkness we are experiencing.

We can't be expected to be 100% efficient in this interpretation. Our consciousness is narrowed to help us sort through the illusion piece by piece and not be overwhelmed. That which we have yet to bring light to may be projected out onto the world. For a community to thrive in the light of the Creator, personal responsibility must be taken by each member for their participation in any event, whether it is seemingly negative or positive. The idea of projection and reflection cannot be forgotten. Those upon the right-hand path "shall find many mirrors for reflection in each other-self it encounters."

There will be disharmony. There will be disagreement. We are still in 3rd density, and we still are under the influence of the veil. I trust that everyone here is doing the best that they can. My personal request is to see these perceptions of negativity and disharmony as a mirror for the self. Follow the trail of perceived disharmony inward and bring the light of the Creator with you. I believe that in doing this, disagreements may be harmonized.

Please keep the guidelines in mind while this discussion continues.

L/L,
Austin

[native]

Expression of self and its symbolic interaction is an interesting thing. If a person states a certain opinion about something that others may feel to be negative, controlling, or restricting, the action of chiming in about the nature of that person's opinion to defend another is a contradiction. Because in the act of attempting to defend the expression of someone, you're denying the expression of the other to think, feel, and express what they feel the need to express. It's all very silly you see! If we were all balanced, we should be able to say and state whatever without getting all bent out of shape about it.

Even pointing all this out is a contradiction, as I'm limiting the limiter who perceives a limiter. There's no way around it, as it's a paradox. Every moment is full of this stuff in your interaction with others, between right and wrong, and illustrates the unity and infinity in thoughts themselves I think. The idea is to be conscious of it.

I can understand how there is no right or wrong. I think that's part of what the choice attempts to illustrate, that this blurring between right and wrong creates an unknowing, and that there is only what you may find useful to yourself and others at any one time. One needs to have faith in themselves, and to love and express themselves in the attempt to serve others. When you express yourself and pursue your own individual path honestly, you begin noticing what's working and what isn't by how it affects others. Then you can balance that and be in a better position to serve. The more you work with expressing yourself, the more you get off your chest and less begins to bother you as you give in to catalyst. You're then able to get yourself out of the way, as there is less of a need to express personal opinion overtly. This allows you to be in a place to simply offer what another may be asking of you in a more balanced manner, rather than reacting to catalyst constantly by trying to fashion someone in your own image.

[Unbound]

Thank you all for answering my calls, as this has been fruitful exactly as I hoped. Blessings to you all, I am pleased to have been catalyst and receiver of catalyst here. I am greatly amused and yet no less serious, I love you all, with gusto!

You all answered my calls of sorrow, my Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow, think well on this.