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    Thread: Why Return to Earth?


    kdsii

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    07-11-2012, 09:44 AM
    This is correct.
    Our true identity is The All That Is.
    The identity comes from not seeing the self and the All That Is as one.
    The irony here is, the more aware a being/social memory complex becomes, the less of a separate-identity it tends to hold.
    A 7th density entity/SMC does not see the self as separate, and thus has no identity. Higher 6th follows this as well.
    The beginning of 4th starts with seeing others as the self, seeing the Creator in others and in all things.

    Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

    We are the Creator.

    (07-11-2012, 01:50 AM)unir 1 Wrote: Sorry for getting off topic here but, in having identity, would one eventually run into the concept of no identity? And in short, there is no identity/ we have no true identity?


    Your 'identity' as you percieve it now is also known as your ego.
    That's why I spend so little time with things concerning the ego, and have shifted most of my learning time to that which serves my greater self, which is of course more aware of its connection to the All That Is.

    From what I understand about adhering and non-adhering karma (what will make you repeat a lesson and what won't), the only way to break the samsaric/karmic cycle is to accept the ego, love it, and help to quiet it down, like a toddler. Then you can simply be, and act out of pure, selfless love.

    A negatively oriented entity will, however, use that which comes from ego to control its surroundings (think Hidden Hand)

    (07-11-2012, 07:54 AM)ShinAr Wrote:
    (07-10-2012, 11:23 PM)TheEternal Wrote: I have only one disagreement with what you have said, and that is that I do not believe identities are particular to incarnations, but rather incarnations continue as a function of separated identities until the consciousness has unified itself with the Cosmic Awareness that is the presence, and then, both non-identity and identity function in symbiosis. This is the process of the creation of the Self, of Selves, by Selves, for Selves, for the Self, for fun and love!

    The act of identification is a sense, a mixture of two fields. There is no motion without identity, but there is a natural process in which identity becomes a frictive force between instances of non-identity. That is, when the being is truly freed from the limited perception, there is not the freedom from the cycle of life and death in the way of presence and existence, but rather that the configurations of one's consciousness allows for the integration with nature and thus for the allowance of natural multi-dimensional existence to arise as deeper unity is seen through all dimensions.

    There is nothing wrong with identity, but it is a tool with many uses, and as such, being one of the most powerful facets of consciousness which is perceivable in experience, it must be regarded as sacred in a way that without identity the lack of identity would remain unfulfilled and only in potential, with no wonders ever being made kinetic.



    I am not sure about everything that you have said but it seems that what you are pointing to is what would become the difference between the temporary identity of one human incarnation and the permanent identity of the actual field of consciousness that is evolving throughout many different forms and identities. In that you are saying that each field of consciousness has an identity separate from the one's it adopts within an incarnation?

    Is this correct?

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    Why Return to Earth? - by Unbound - 06-02-2012, 02:25 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by BrownEye - 06-02-2012, 03:37 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Aureus - 06-02-2012, 03:46 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Cyan - 07-07-2012, 08:10 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Siren - 06-02-2012, 04:32 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by 52midnight - 06-02-2012, 05:24 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by godwide_void - 06-02-2012, 07:23 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by jivatman - 06-02-2012, 08:17 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 06-02-2012, 09:28 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Unbound - 06-02-2012, 09:44 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 06-03-2012, 07:16 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by AnthroHeart - 06-02-2012, 09:53 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by 52midnight - 06-02-2012, 11:25 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Xenos - 06-03-2012, 07:13 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Oceania - 06-03-2012, 07:30 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 06-03-2012, 07:34 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Cyan - 06-03-2012, 07:32 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 06-03-2012, 08:31 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Oceania - 06-03-2012, 07:33 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Oceania - 06-03-2012, 07:36 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 06-03-2012, 09:43 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Oceania - 06-03-2012, 10:12 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Cyan - 06-03-2012, 10:19 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by kycahi - 06-03-2012, 01:48 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Oceania - 06-03-2012, 02:50 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by BrownEye - 06-03-2012, 04:39 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by 52midnight - 06-03-2012, 06:45 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by kdsii - 07-05-2012, 05:45 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Plenum - 07-05-2012, 06:53 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by AnthroHeart - 07-05-2012, 07:07 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by kdsii - 07-06-2012, 01:37 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by zenmaster - 07-06-2012, 02:21 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Sagittarius - 07-06-2012, 05:26 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by berlingravell - 07-07-2012, 12:11 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Unbound - 07-10-2012, 04:36 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by AnthroHeart - 07-10-2012, 04:50 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 11:02 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Unbound - 07-10-2012, 11:23 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 07-11-2012, 07:54 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Unbound - 07-11-2012, 03:41 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 07-11-2012, 04:04 PM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Sagittarius - 07-12-2012, 02:35 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by unir 1 - 07-11-2012, 01:50 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by kdsii - 07-11-2012, 09:44 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 07-11-2012, 10:47 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by kdsii - 07-11-2012, 10:54 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 07-11-2012, 11:54 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by kdsii - 07-11-2012, 11:59 AM
    RE: Why Return to Earth? - by Shin'Ar - 07-11-2012, 12:59 PM

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