The Hunger Games

[zenmaster]

...The catalyst of greed, or role of elites, is not required in the first place.

You're right, it's certainly not required. But I believe these catalysts have greatly sped up our evolution. They are providing us with a great service and having fun all the while. Of course, this fun of theirs may have consequences IF we cannot collectively completely forgive them and thank them for this service. Without this forgiveness, karma won't be fun for these people.

Presented catalysts don't speed up evolution. It's a wholly conscious process of using 'will' to recognize catalyst as catalyst which accomplishes that. Because there are more conscious people incarnate now, there are more that are using the available opportunities to evolve. If there is need of forgiveness, then there is some kind of karma (attachment) involved as well in the presented catalyst.

...So no, free-energy tech doesn't "start the transition to 4D". Values remain the same and, if they involve power structures, will find an outlet (and a potentially more dangerous one with physical power sources readily on tap). Distortions are not suddenly removed through some manufacturing process or a new tool.

Of course, the Elites and their hierarchy is the first thing that becomes obsolete. They certainly cannot go to 4d positive.

The way I look at it, with the abundant opportunities for evolution provided beyond the small restrictions imposed by the dynamic between the unwilling and the elite, it makes almost no sense to focus on that elite as a role in evolution in the first place. That's why the conspiracy info spewed out all over the new-age forums becomes suspicious as some kind of important or even interesting news. What is lacking in oneself is what must be accentuated - and if you must play that off of the 'elite' then there is your embrace, your binding dance. That is necessarily the attachment to what is offered by the elite. I realize that DW (et al) may not see that, but does everyone not?

Ra stated that physics and metaphysics are indissociable. So I concluded that technology is always central to the process of going from 3d to 4d. It's quite possible that I'm completely mistaken on this. But it somehow gives me hope to believe that tech is a part of it at this stage of my journey.

Physics and metaphysics are completely tied. That's why free energy or UFO tech or any transcendent notion or symbolism involving the physical is unconsciously attached to the metaphysical. If that aspect of self (metaphysical/physical interplay) is never actually made conscious, then how is society going to evolve based on free-energy principles? It can't evolve where there is no attempt to accept that aspect of self. Don't you see that?

The book 2150 AD gives a nice view of what it would look like without the suppression of the Elites and also how this affects our values and spirituality on a global scale.

Read that book 20 years ago. I liked it and it was good fiction, but it's sort of dated and the actual work involved in one's unique circumstances of evolution is dismissed in favor of indulgent entertainment value.

The idea is to provide more leisure time, and possibly remove concerns related to survival (if there was not more war as a result). My point is that could obviously happen at any point in 3D (and has with prior 3D civilizations) and is not necessarily something that starts a transition to 4D. What's funny is that if 4D is immanent, then of course anything related to change can be interpreted as a sign of a transition to 4D (and we currently see this with people, naturally, labeling everything as a sign).

That's because most people thirst for real change. The Elites knows this, they give us "change". Meet the new, same as the old.

I honestly don't see the role of the elites as being as important as you do. In order to progress, individual decisions and realizations must be made which have nothing to do with whatever plans or progress they happen to be able to (independently) make.

What would be a sign is a change in general social philosophy that underlies all catalyst. Of course we already suspect this, so evidence of that too is sought out in the distraction of merely reinforcing a feeling of a new paradigm. That's is kind of an impotent, regressive approach to actually participating in the change, like looking for shapes in clouds. Or rather, attempting to substitute a completely transitory notion of 4D for 4D itself (or the idea of Buddha nature for the Buddha nature).

IMHO there are only two ways that could result in real change.

1) Change the Self and the world will change. (Not likely on a global scale if our current status quo remains. Of course, the people on this forum already did this to a great extent.)

2) Remove the external suppression mechanisms and the Selves will change and then the world will change. (This could happen if 3d is indeed going away)

In my view the first way is the only way, and it is indeed on a global scale if the individual accepts the responsibility that is grounded in the same 'distortion patterns' in use by others. That's the opportunity 'bridge' (which still must be consciously accepted).

The suppression mechanisms are illusory. Think about it. You don't get 'free energy' if you're unable to envision it, metaphysically, in the first place. i.e. you don't inherit some principle of transcendence for no cost. If you think that others should somehow invent it for your convenient consumption, then you're not getting it.