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    03-24-2012, 12:43 PM (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012, 12:45 PM by hogey11.)
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    Which gnostic text is that quoted from? I really like it - it's good 'man up' advice in a practical/literal sense too. If you're out and about, take some risks and ask a girl to dance or you'll end up chillin on the sidelines till last call wondering why things are so lonely. Thank you for this BigSmile


    I found the main bit about homosexuality from the LOO site. I have a few thoughts about these questions. I think there is much hidden in the subtext:

    Quote:31.8 Questioner: We have what seems to be an increasing number of entities incarnate here now who have what is called a homosexual orientation. Could you explain and expand upon that concept?

    Ra: I am Ra. Entities of this condition experience a great deal of distortion due to the fact that they have experienced many incarnations as biological male and as biological female. This would not suggest what you call homosexuality in an active phase were it not for the difficult vibratory condition of your planetary sphere. There is what you may call great aura infringement among your crowded urban areas in your more populous countries, as you call portions of your planetary surface. Under these conditions the confusions will occur.

    For myself, RA is saying here that 'homosexuality' is a deviation from the plan, which from a biological standpoint makes some sense. I think a lot of the other aspects of this question make more sense after the next few are answered.

    Quote:31.9 Questioner: Why does density of population create these confusions?

    Ra: I am Ra. The bisexual reproductive urge has as its goal, not only the simple reproductive function, but more especially the desire to serve others being awakened by this activity.

    In an over-crowded situation where each mind/body/spirit complex is under constant bombardment from other-selves it is understandable that those who are especially sensitive would not feel the desire to be of service to otherselves. This would also increase the probability of a lack of desire or a blockage of the red ray reproductive energy.

    In an uncrowded atmosphere this same entity would, through the stimulus of feeling the solitude about it, then have much more desire to seek out someone to whom it may be of service thus regularizing the sexual reproductive function.

    I think we have to be careful not to read this purely as pertaining only to homosexual sexual relationships. Like other's have mentioned, sexual energy transfers are not just the exchange of bodily fluids - there is much spiritual work being done as well. RA is never bringing the morality of sexual energy transfers into this at all; it is up to us how we handle ourselves in the bedroom whether gay, straight, or bisexual. We choose which color rays to participate in and whether we direct our energy towards STS or STO purposes in our sexual unions. That is beside the point that I feel Ra is making here.

    I think Ra is saying in the first line of the response that sexual relationships are there to help shape us towards our spiritual goals. The interplay between the the masculine and feminine energies play off each other and feed each other to make both more full; in practical terms, I think this means that some men need a lady to love and protect and some women need a man to feed and take care of in order for them to be at their spiritual best. We cannot pretend that men and women are exactly the same because the biology is very differently; this is fact. IMO, it could be that the differences in biology between man/woman is why this type of relationship is seemingly 'preferred' by Ra, in that the homosexual union, even with a strong past-life aura breaking through, cannot provide the same opportunities to work and learn in this environment. This is all conjecture tho; I don't know for sure Tongue

    I take the overcrowded line to basically mean that in high-density places, the constant acquiescence to the greater majority that is required by living in a city can drive people to not search for the aforementioned relationship mentioned above (masculine/feminine dynamics). In really basic terms, they're talking about people who choose to not participate in a heterosexual relationship because they already deal so much with those energies every day in their dealings with all the people around them. It could also include people who don't care to have children.

    I try to fit the following statement into the last by saying that this Ra seems to be alluding to the 'lonely' factor that one may or may not feel in their lives. RA also seems to be speaking from a purely STO standpoint, so I am not sure what the STS teaching on this subject would reveal either.

    Quote:31.10 Questioner: Roughly how many previous incarnations would a male entity in this incarnation have had to have had in the past as a female to have a highly homosexual orientation in this incarnation?

    Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.

    It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere green ray love of a nonsexual nature thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment.

    I think this kinda just reminds us that our biology does dictate a lot of this. We seem to require an incarnational bias in order to override our biological inclinations, and even then, homosexuality as a sexual act is considered a 'sexual impairment' by Ra (which again makes some sense on a biological level). RA does, however, include the caveat that beneficial relationships are very possible, if focused away from the sexual acts.

    I also wonder how/if anal sex comes into play with all of this. I remember reading once that some claim that it's a form of energy transfer/vampirism where the red ray energies are absorbed by that who has penetrated. I will admit the post came packaged with all sorts of hate and fear towards catholic priests, but the idea somehow stuck with me.

    Does the last line prove that Ra's judgment of homosexuals that the real 'problem' is purely the sexual acts that are associated with it?
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