(03-23-2012, 10:58 PM)hogey11 Wrote: 4D is not about shutting any ideas down; it's about approaching all ideas with love. The bisexuals will be celebrated like anyone else

(03-23-2012, 11:21 PM)Lulu Wrote: My personal experiences or 'awakening' brought me OUT of an apathetical or rather indifferent sort of sexual polarity state. Though I preferred men, I was open to the idea of exploring women.

Quote:The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished. It is then the task to extend this understanding to the bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet.[/size]

(03-24-2012, 11:20 AM)Icaro Wrote: Yeah, dancing is a great way to channel that state of ecstasy..I love to dance. When everyone is together and happy like that, you really feel that celebration of beingness. It puts you in a higher state.

(03-23-2012, 09:59 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I had thought that when Ra referred to bisexual reproduction they were usually talking about what we call heterosexual activity.

(03-23-2012, 10:29 PM)Icaro Wrote: Ra is referring to bisexual reproduction (two sexes) as opposed to asexual reproduction (self-producing).

Quote:31.8 Questioner: We have what seems to be an increasing number of entities incarnate here now who have what is called a homosexual orientation. Could you explain and expand upon that concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Entities of this condition experience a great deal of distortion due to the fact that they have experienced many incarnations as biological male and as biological female. This would not suggest what you call homosexuality in an active phase were it not for the difficult vibratory condition of your planetary sphere. There is what you may call great aura infringement among your crowded urban areas in your more populous countries, as you call portions of your planetary surface. Under these conditions the confusions will occur.

Quote:31.9 Questioner: Why does density of population create these confusions?

Ra: I am Ra. The bisexual reproductive urge has as its goal, not only the simple reproductive function, but more especially the desire to serve others being awakened by this activity.

In an over-crowded situation where each mind/body/spirit complex is under constant bombardment from other-selves it is understandable that those who are especially sensitive would not feel the desire to be of service to otherselves. This would also increase the probability of a lack of desire or a blockage of the red ray reproductive energy.

In an uncrowded atmosphere this same entity would, through the stimulus of feeling the solitude about it, then have much more desire to seek out someone to whom it may be of service thus regularizing the sexual reproductive function.

Quote:31.10 Questioner: Roughly how many previous incarnations would a male entity in this incarnation have had to have had in the past as a female to have a highly homosexual orientation in this incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.

It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere green ray love of a nonsexual nature thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment.

(03-23-2012, 10:58 PM)hogey11 Wrote: Once we passed the harmonic convergence date, nearly all souls incarnating on this sphere are here for the harvest, and are therefore harvestable.

(03-23-2012, 10:58 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I believe Ra uses this idea to explain why one might be homosexual, where if a soul has lived more than 2/3 of their incarnations as one sex over the other, the sexual preference will sometimes bleed through despite everything else. So I see the concept extending out past sexuality into personalities also...

(03-24-2012, 11:20 AM)Icaro Wrote: Yeah, dancing is a great way to channel that state of ecstasy..I love to dance. When everyone is together and happy like that, you really feel that celebration of beingness. It puts you in a higher state.

(03-24-2012, 12:43 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I also wonder how/if anal sex comes into play with all of this. I remember reading once that some claim that it's a form of energy transfer/vampirism where the red ray energies are absorbed by that who has penetrated. I will admit the post came packaged with all sorts of hate and fear towards catholic priests, but the idea somehow stuck with me.

Does the last line prove that Ra's judgment of homosexuals that the real 'problem' is purely the sexual acts that are associated with it?

Quote:Are you saying everyone on the planet is harvestable at this point in time?

(03-24-2012, 02:52 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I just also think this explains the doubling of our population over the last 30 years

(03-24-2012, 12:43 PM)hogey11 Wrote: @Icaro

Which gnostic text is that quoted from? I really like it - it's good 'man up' advice in a practical/literal sense too. If you're out and about, take some risks and ask a girl to dance or you'll end up chillin on the sidelines till last call wondering why things are so lonely. Thank you for this

(03-24-2012, 01:39 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Oh yes most definitely! And headbanging too.

(03-24-2012, 03:41 AM)jacrob Wrote: I think we are all meant to dance together...in comfortable shoes! Maybe that's what's happening now.

(03-24-2012, 03:38 PM)zenmaster Wrote: I think you missed the talk about the 'birds and the bees'.

Quote:31.4 Questioner: Can you expand somewhat on the concept that this action not only allows the Creator to know Itself better but also creates, in our density, an offspring or makes available the pathway for another entity to enter this density?

Ra: I am Ra. As we have previously said, the sexual energy transfers include the red ray transfer which is random and which is a function of the second-density attempt to grow, to survive, shall we say. This is a proper function of the sexual interaction. The offspring, as you call the incarnated entity, takes on the mind/body complex opportunity offered by this random act or event called the fertilization of egg by seed which causes an entity to have the opportunity to then enter this density as an incarnate entity.

This gives the two who were engaged in this bisexual reproductive energy transfer the potential for great service in this area of the nurturing of the small-experienced entity as it gains in experience.

It shall be of interest at this point to note that there is always the possibility of using these opportunities to polarize towards the negative, and this has been aided by the gradual building up over many thousands of your years of social complex distortions which create a tendency towards confusion, shall we say, or baffling of the service to others aspect of this energy transfer and subsequent opportunities for service to other selves.

Quote:31.7 Questioner: Thank you. In the previous material you mentioned “magnetic attraction.” Would you define and expand upon that term?

Ra: I am Ra. We used the term to indicate that in your bisexual natures there is that which is of polarity. This polarity may be seen to be variable according to the, shall we say, male/female polarization of each entity, be each entity biologically male or female. Thus you may see the magnetism which two entities with the appropriate balance, male/female versus female/male polarity, meeting and thus feeling the attraction which polarized forces will exert, one upon the other.

This is the strength of the bisexual mechanism. It does not take an act of will to decide to feel attraction for one who is oppositely polarized sexually. It will occur in an inevitable sense giving the free flow of energy a proper, shall we say, avenue. This avenue may be blocked by some distortion toward a belief/condition stating to the entity that this attraction is not desired. However, the basic mechanism functions as simply as would, shall we say, the magnet and the iron.

Quote:83.3 Questioner: Thank you. I’m going to ask a rather long, complex question and I would request that the answer to each portion of this question be given if there was a significant difference prior to the veil than following the veil so that I can get an idea of how what we experience now is used for better polarization.

What was the difference before the veil in the following while incarnate in third density: sleep, dreams, physical pain, mental pain, sex, disease, catalyst programming, random catalyst, relationships, and communication with the Higher Self or with the mind/body/spirit totality or any other mind, body, or spirit functions before the veil that would be significant with respect to their difference after the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us establish that both before and after the veil the same conditions existed in time/space; that is, the veiling process is a space/time phenomenon.

Secondly, the character of experience was altered drastically by the veiling process. In some cases such as the dreaming and the contact with the Higher Self, the experience was quantitatively different due to the fact that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams and is also the single door against which the Higher Self must stand awaiting entry. Before veiling, dreams were not for the purpose of using the so-called unconscious to further utilize catalyst but were used to learn/teach from teach/learners within the inner planes as well as those of outer origins of higher density. As you deal with each subject of which you spoke you may observe, during the veiling process, not a quantitative change in the experience but a qualitative one.

Let us, as an example, choose your sexual activities of energy transfer. If you have a desire to treat other subjects in detail please query forthwith. In the instance of the sexual activity of those not dwelling within the veiling each activity was a transfer. There were some transfers of strength. Most were rather attenuated in the strength of the transfer due to the lack of veiling.

In the third density entities are attempting to learn the ways of love. If it can be seen that all are one being it becomes much more difficult for the undisciplined personality to choose one mate and, thereby, initiate itself into a program of service. It is much more likely that the sexual energy will be dissipated more randomly without either great joy or great sorrow depending from these experiences.

Therefore, the green-ray energy transfer, being almost without exception the case in sexual energy transfer prior to veiling, remains weakened and without significant crystallization. The sexual energy transfers and blockages after veiling have been discussed previously. It may be seen to be a more complex study but one far more efficient in crystallizing those who seek the green-ray energy center.

Quote:84.22 Questioner: Did most Logoi plan, before the veil, to create a system of random sexual activity or the specific pairing of entities for specific periods of time, or did they have an objective in this respect?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The harvest from the previous creation was that which included the male and female mind/body/spirit. It was the intention of the original Logoi that entities mate with one another in any fashion which caused a greater polarization. It was determined, after observation of the process of many Logoi, that polarization increased many fold if the mating were not indiscriminate. Consequent Logoi thusly preserved a bias towards the mated relationship which is more characteristic of more disciplined personalities and of what you may call higher densities. The free will of each entity, however, was always paramount and a bias only could be offered.

(03-24-2012, 11:51 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I have never understood why bees were included in that. Bees don't reproduce anything like humans or other animals!

(03-24-2012, 11:51 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I have never understood why bees were included in that. Bees don't reproduce anything like humans or other animals!

(03-27-2012, 08:41 PM)Lulu Wrote: The question then being, what does Harmony mean exactly?