03-15-2012, 10:12 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2012, 10:18 PM by SomaticDreams.)
The problem of evil has been debated since the origins of monotheistic deities. It is true, many will say "it is all catalyst"; that it is. Can we not learn more from it by exploring it more?
You define evil as particular actions:
Is evil not simply an action, but a property of an entity? Is it not common to say "that person is evil", rather than "that person acts evil"? Is a person ever really completely "evil" or "good"?
Evil is difficult to define or pin down because morality is ambiguous due to its connection with our mind/body/spirit complexes, or how our current incarnation manifests itself.
Would not another incarnation have radically different moral systems, if there was not a mind/body/spirit complex, but rather just a mind/spirit complex?
What types of catalyst would be there? If there is no 'physical' catalyst (in the sense that we understand, i.e. pain, pleasure) then would this not change our morality? This assumes a veil of ignorance as well.
We are told as well by Ra that catalyst will be more subtle in 4D. Will this not change our ethical systems?
It's clear that this specific incarnation presents particular types of ethical systems to develop (given free will and the veil in all hypothetical 'systems' or 'universes' besides 4D).
This point is important since the question of evil is not really of a property or action, but of possibilities presented to particular incarnations. Ours is of the mind/body/spirit complex, so it is clear that 'action' is a common thread to your examples, as well as 'service to self' or controlling tendencies.
The proper question, in my humble opinion, is then why are these actions of control, of the 'self' and 'other-selves' in this particular manifestation considered 'evil'?
Is not the role of a parent to direct and guide their child a type of control? Is it wise to totally control the child's life or to ignore them? Can these actions be good, or bad?
What it comes down to is the interpretation of each mind/body/spirit complex's personal distortions projects onto their experience. No doubt, responding to the former questions, you have used examples from memories or experiences you have had, or particular events in your life that you deem 'important'. Their karmic balancing, and former experiences filters out, process, categorizes and assumes information in order to easily 'understand it'.
We live within social symbolic universes (the superego) which controls a 'personal' symbolic universe of the ego. The Id is the unconscious, yet to be revealed by experience, wherein all of our former experiences lie, where our unconscious filtering, processing, categorizing and assumptions are made. Once these 'distortions' are made conscious, they can be 'worked upon', meaning cleared away. By being conscious of them, we can simply be aware of the moment.
By being aware, resting in primordial awareness, one is able to treat all experience with loving-kindness, compassion, patience and non-violence.
Is then not the problem of evil solved by awareness, for it is really not a problem, but a particular set of choices available to entities to discover, balance and harmonize themselves?
You define evil as particular actions:
Quote:sexual trafficking, polluting the oceans with heavy metals, tasing people at the slightest provocation, battery hens, rape camps.
Is evil not simply an action, but a property of an entity? Is it not common to say "that person is evil", rather than "that person acts evil"? Is a person ever really completely "evil" or "good"?
Evil is difficult to define or pin down because morality is ambiguous due to its connection with our mind/body/spirit complexes, or how our current incarnation manifests itself.
Would not another incarnation have radically different moral systems, if there was not a mind/body/spirit complex, but rather just a mind/spirit complex?
What types of catalyst would be there? If there is no 'physical' catalyst (in the sense that we understand, i.e. pain, pleasure) then would this not change our morality? This assumes a veil of ignorance as well.
We are told as well by Ra that catalyst will be more subtle in 4D. Will this not change our ethical systems?
It's clear that this specific incarnation presents particular types of ethical systems to develop (given free will and the veil in all hypothetical 'systems' or 'universes' besides 4D).
This point is important since the question of evil is not really of a property or action, but of possibilities presented to particular incarnations. Ours is of the mind/body/spirit complex, so it is clear that 'action' is a common thread to your examples, as well as 'service to self' or controlling tendencies.
The proper question, in my humble opinion, is then why are these actions of control, of the 'self' and 'other-selves' in this particular manifestation considered 'evil'?
Is not the role of a parent to direct and guide their child a type of control? Is it wise to totally control the child's life or to ignore them? Can these actions be good, or bad?
What it comes down to is the interpretation of each mind/body/spirit complex's personal distortions projects onto their experience. No doubt, responding to the former questions, you have used examples from memories or experiences you have had, or particular events in your life that you deem 'important'. Their karmic balancing, and former experiences filters out, process, categorizes and assumes information in order to easily 'understand it'.
We live within social symbolic universes (the superego) which controls a 'personal' symbolic universe of the ego. The Id is the unconscious, yet to be revealed by experience, wherein all of our former experiences lie, where our unconscious filtering, processing, categorizing and assumptions are made. Once these 'distortions' are made conscious, they can be 'worked upon', meaning cleared away. By being conscious of them, we can simply be aware of the moment.
By being aware, resting in primordial awareness, one is able to treat all experience with loving-kindness, compassion, patience and non-violence.
Is then not the problem of evil solved by awareness, for it is really not a problem, but a particular set of choices available to entities to discover, balance and harmonize themselves?