Winter Solstice of 2011/ Harvest approaching?

[Tenet Nosce]

My apologies also then, I'm lost as to what we're talking about :¬)

I think we may have been talking past one another. No worries. Happens all the time.

I've been responding to your questions regarding my own understandings. Have I offended you somehow?

No, I am not offended in the least. Though I do feel some anger when my posts are not responded to in the full context in which they were written. But that is probably more due to the nature of online forums, than any particular person.

Likewise brother, we all do it. I have chosen not to cherry pick from non-Ra sources relating to the ascension process, which is what you have yourself done.

Actually, Ra didn't once use the word "ascension". That term was employed by Wilcock, back when he had the ascension2000.com website. I don't subscribe to the notion of the "ascension process" as espoused by DW, so it is unclear how I have cherry-picked from sources to support my belief about it.

But more to your point- I don't cherry-pick from the transcripts. I take each particular comment in the context of the totality of the transcripts, and from there draw my conclusions, and/or make speculations. This is actually the exact opposite of "cherry-picking", which I specifically described in my previous post.

All fo the Ra quotes provided point to death as the gateway, and of 3D and 4D being incompatible.

I understand Ra holds the perception that death is the gateway to further experience. But that isn't really saying much other than that life doesn't "end" upon death.

As for 3D and 4D being "incompatible", I have little idea as to what you mean by this.

If 2012 passes and I can fly - brilliant.

Yes, you can fly... in 4D. But 3D earth is not becoming 4D earth.

I'm simply stating that Ra does not mention ascension within this 3D incarnation.

Again, Ra does not mention "ascension", whatsoever. To be frank, I am doubtful you are even responding to my views. You seem to be responding to somebody else's views here. Perhaps if we backed up, this discussion would be more fruitful.

Would you mind restating my views on this topic, according to your understanding?

I will do the same- it seemed to me that you were saying that people who have not qualified themselves as "harvestable" by the end of 2012 will have the rest of their natural lives to do so. By "natural lives" I took that to mean that somebody whose body is currently aged 30 years will have another 50+ years to pull themselves out of the "sinkhole of indifference". Is this an accurate representation? If not, please correct.