(06-08-2011, 06:01 PM)Radu Wrote: something very interesting occurred while you replied, I was reading the last newsletter from Jan 2011 from a meditation sessions and channeling of Q'uo. Look what they say about Free Will in relation to religious indoctrination: "In the fist place, free will is a matter of perception for each person who is living in incarnation on Planet Earth in third density. If the entity has had a successful indoctrination into some religions, for instance, THE MATTER OF FREE WILL HAS BEEN DECLARED NULL AND VOID AND INSTEAD THE CHILD WILL OBEY EACH DICTATE AND DOGMA OF THE RELIGION which has an answer for every situation, usually heavily couched in judgment and NARROWING ONE'S CHOICES SO THAT THERE ARE PRISONS MADE OF DOGMA, EACH TENET A BAR. the door is locked for the entire incarnation, once such tenets are accepted."
Now Q'uo are calling upon our own discernment and judgment in regard to their thoughts.
But honestly, I feel I agree almost completely to what was said above. If their free will was void from the very birthday by being indoctrinated and inculturated with pre-established dogmas, rules and regulations, we then have the right (but not the obligation) to tell them that their choices has been taken for them by others (by the society, if you will), they did not have to choose, because it was already chosen for them.
In other words, I think in a way that we are allowed to offer them this challenge.
Radu thank you so much for reported this section of Q'uo channeling!
It was really a long time I wondered if trying to make others understand that religious indoctrination had come to enslave them means violate the free will of others! This was one of my biggest cause of confusion and contradiction!! However as Q'uo said I think that the "door" of that people is locked so try to make understand them is a waste of time and a lack of respect for their beliefs. I don't want to blame them for their choice.
Thank you again my dear friend, your post was deeply important for me
(06-08-2011, 06:06 PM)Oceania Wrote: doesn't that mean there's no chance of them getting it?
I think yes, they are lost