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Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-06-2011

I finally found myself comfortable and set down to write you this introductory message.
My name is Radu and I am from Moldova (Republic of Moldova), a small landlocked country in Eastern Europe between Romania and Ukraine. I am 26 years old and I am extremely happily married.
First of all, I would like to express my sincere feelings of gratitude for the llresearch team's enormous work, efforts and dedication to what has become for me one of the most inspirational, insightful and uplifting creations in my life, namely the Ra Material. I sometimes contemplate the interesting circumstances I have come to find out about the Law of One.
18 months ago I obtained an internship visa to Tampa, Fl state, USA to intern in hospitality. Before coming to USA, I have long felt that there should be something else about my life, about our life. Even though I did not know what I am looking for, I could not tell in words what is that which nurtures my curiosity and drives me forward to read and learn in search for answers. In this respect, I learned that the Law of Attraction is universal and true. After several months upon my arrival in USA, I started to come across esoteric information and materials, from alternative media sources about the powers that be, ruling elites, conspiracies and the like, to inspirational messages about awareness and love from Alaje, to ET contact experiences such as Bob Renaud’s contact with ETs from Koreandor, Alex Collier and Andromedans, etc. Then I came across a revelation made by allegedly a bloodline member of Illuminati ruling society on abovetopsecret forum who emphasized the accuracy of the Ra Material. At that very moment I was very much intrigued, found the Ra Material online and started to read it. At the middle of Book I, I realized the Ra Material should be one of the most cherished books I should have in my life and so I purchased all four books. Despite all the hoaxes out there, I felt the llresearch team are an honest and good-will team. The pictures from the Ra sessions enclosed in book I, all the details described patiently and unexpected events happening during the sessions, and the like all sounded genuine to me and added to my confidence in the Ra Material.

Without doubt the Ra Material must be read more than one time for better understanding (“if we can use this misnomer”).

Dear friends, there are plenty of questions in my mind that I would like to ask you in regard to your work, as well as to different other topics, such as dreams, Higher Self, Free Will, Acceptance, 2012 and the like.

Also, I would like to know if there is anybody from Moldova or corresponding with someone from Moldova? I cannot submit to the idea that I am the only one from my country that luckily came across the Ra Material even though it is available in Russian too, which most of my co-nationals speak along with our native Romanian language.

I am in anyway glad to have joined the forum and the Law of One family.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - 111 - 06-06-2011

(06-06-2011, 07:52 PM)Radu Wrote: I finally found myself comfortable and set down to write you this introductory message.
My name is Radu and I am from Moldova (Republic of Moldova), a small landlocked country in Eastern Europe between Romania and Ukraine. I am 26 years old and I am extremely happily married.
First of all, I would like to express my sincere feelings of gratitude for the llresearch team's enormous work, efforts and dedication to what has become for me one of the most inspirational, insightful and uplifting creations in my life, namely the Ra Material. I sometimes contemplate the interesting circumstances I have come to find out about the Law of One.
18 months ago I obtained an internship visa to Tampa, Fl state, USA to intern in hospitality. Before coming to USA, I have long felt that there should be something else about my life, about our life. Even though I did not know what I am looking for, I could not tell in words what is that which nurtures my curiosity and drives me forward to read and learn in search for answers. In this respect, I learned that the Law of Attraction is universal and true. After several months upon my arrival in USA, I started to come across esoteric information and materials, from alternative media sources about the powers that be, ruling elites, conspiracies and the like, to inspirational messages about awareness and love from Alaje, to ET contact experiences such as Bob Renaud’s contact with ETs from Koreandor, Alex Collier and Andromedans, etc. Then I came across a revelation made by allegedly a bloodline member of Illuminati ruling society on abovetopsecret forum who emphasized the accuracy of the Ra Material. At that very moment I was very much intrigued, found the Ra Material online and started to read it. At the middle of Book I, I realized the Ra Material should be one of the most cherished books I should have in my life and so I purchased all four books. Despite all the hoaxes out there, I felt the llresearch team are an honest and good-will team. The pictures from the Ra sessions enclosed in book I, all the details described patiently and unexpected events happening during the sessions, and the like all sounded genuine to me and added to my confidence in the Ra Material.

Without doubt the Ra Material must be read more than one time for better understanding (“if we can use this misnomer”).

Dear friends, there are plenty of questions in my mind that I would like to ask you in regard to your work, as well as to different other topics, such as dreams, Higher Self, Free Will, Acceptance, 2012 and the like.

Also, I would like to know if there is anybody from Moldova or corresponding with someone from Moldova? I cannot submit to the idea that I am the only one from my country that luckily came across the Ra Material even though it is available in Russian too, which most of my co-nationals speak along with our native Romanian language.

I am in anyway glad to have joined the forum and the Law of One family.

Just curious, was this member of one of the ruling bloodlines known as Hidden Hand?? As did you, I was searching for the answers to these burning questions I had inside! Befoe I was introduced to the Law of One Material I had many experiences and had "Downloaded" much of the information I found in the Law of One. But what steered me to the Ra material was a 5day thread with a supposed illuminati insider(member of a ruling bloodline) who refered to themseleves as the Hidden Hand. And in the thread there was a link to the Ra material! Just curious if this might be what you are refering too? Smile


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-06-2011

I almost left you without writing more about myself.

I was born in a Moldovan village and lived there for 4 years. I always return to my grandparents' village with eagerness and love for being closer to the nature, to the trees, to animals (most of them domestic) , to fresh air, and healthy food from their garden.
As we moved to town, all my adolescence was a variety of experience I now very much cherish. At home, with a caring father and mother, but who would fight (literally) often involving us, my younger brother and me, in their dispute over my father's alcoholism or who is right and who is wrong in family affairs. I have seen scenes which I want to forget. At the same time, I was fortunate enough to enter a folk dance school and a music school, thanks to my parents. So I dived into the world of dance and music, playing the accordion often, which I now realize were providing spiritual and psychological healing to me.
I have always been a desperate romantic and strongly believed in unconditional love, in a true, sincere and eternal love for a woman I will meet one day. "In this illusion you know experience, you acquire what you desire" (Hatonn) That was so true in my life. The day I met my wife at the library, I swear I felt a strong emotion inside me, as though the love magnet was activated within me. There is a saying, according to which love is when two souls first unite and then two bodies. I am now convinced that this is what exactly happened. We both became conscious of that and soon became happily married.

Love you all!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - 3DMonkey - 06-06-2011

Hello Radu. Nice to have you here.

Tell us all you want. New perspectives are wonderful to hear.

Love and Blessings


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-06-2011

To 111,
Yes, you are right. The bloodline member was calling himself the Hidden_Hand. the whole version with the questions and answers can be found on illuminatinews.com
By the way friends, can you hint if there is any thread on this forum discussing the channeling of Cassiopaeans by Laura Knight-Jadczyk? I found it interesting at a glance but very different in style and attitude on both parts, the source and Laura. I came across some severe critics online about Laura's mistreatment of her group members, manipulation, money craving and other negative implications of her work, even though the same critics do not doubt the existence of the channeling. The website seems to be very informative on various esoteric topics and conspiracy theories though.
I would like to here some opinions on that.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Brittany - 06-06-2011

Hullo, Radu. Welcome to the family!

At first I thought the Hidden Hand stuff was total BS, but over time I've come to believe it's at least possibly legitimate. If it was hoaxed, the person would have had to put an extraordinary amount of time and effort into weaving that thread. I think it is interesting to have something from the other side to juxtapose with all the positive information out there, like the Ra Material. It allows for a broader scope of study.

I'm glad you've found someone to be happy with. Having a person who resonates on the same frequency as you is a priceless gift.

Make yourself at home and join in the fun!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Aaron - 06-07-2011

Hi, Radu. You're the only member who's said they're from Moldova so far, I believe! Welcome!

There was a thread started on Laura, but it was deleted because at the time, we didn't have our Other Channeled Sources Sub-Forum yet! If you wish, feel free to hop in there and make one after reading that forum's guidelines. Smile


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - kycahi - 06-07-2011

Hello Radu and welcome to your new family. I am happy to know that people in Eastern Europe who recently came away from Soviet influence are finding this new information and are taking it in joyfully.

If you click my dashboard up on top of this area you will see a globe with tiny lights wherever a member of b4th has logged in.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - 111 - 06-07-2011

Smile a lot in the hidden hand resonates with me, session two I feel really breaks it down well. Welcome To the group!!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-07-2011

Thank you for your loving welcoming, my friends!
I honestly do feel welcome.
Regarding HiddenHand's revelation in 2008, I read it with utmost interest and caution in the same time. Even though a lot of his answers made sense more or less for me, especially with the tools they provide us to show us "who we are not", but still I cannot go along with his or her affirmation that it is so hard for them to do all this evil, violence, corruption, aggressiveness, perversion, etc because they nevertheless love us. Certainly we are missing something here.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - ÆTERNAL - 06-07-2011

Hello Radu, I'm European too, I'm from Italy. As you see this is a special place made by special people, here you will find love and understanding.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-07-2011

Hi Eternal,
what your friends from Italy? do you discuss with the the Law of One and other topics on spiritual evolution?
I would like to know stories about how LOO readers impart this knowledge to their friends, relatives, etc. In my case, for instance, I cannot talk directly about LOO to my parents, because it is something that they have never dreamed of...
therefore, I am trying to find a way, I guess the most natural and honest one, to impart LOO to my family and friends.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Eddie - 06-07-2011

(06-07-2011, 03:25 PM)Radu Wrote: I would like to know stories about how LOO readers impart this knowledge to their friends, relatives, etc. In my case, for instance, I cannot talk directly about LOO to my parents, because it is something that they have never dreamed of...

It is this way for most of us. Those who are ready for the knowledge will find it; "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink", as we say here in the U.S.

If you are able you should consider attending the LLResearch homecoming event at the end of August, here in Kentucky. It is a joyful thing, to meet your spiritual brothers and sisters.Heart


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-07-2011

Eddie,
that was going to be my next inquiry. I was going to ask if any member of this forum lives in Tampa, where I am residing temporarily with my wife for the next two months and I then we leave home to Moldova. I would love to meet with someone face to face in regard to LOO. If anybody knows any meditation groups or any other gatherings of the sort taking place in Tampa please let me know.
thank you!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Eddie - 06-07-2011

(06-07-2011, 04:55 PM)Radu Wrote: Eddie,
that was going to be my next inquiry. I was going to ask if any member of this forum lives in Tampa, where I am residing temporarily with my wife for the next two months and I then we leave home to Moldova. I would love to meet with someone face to face in regard to LOO. If anybody knows any meditation groups or any other gatherings of the sort taking place in Tampa please let me know.
thank you!

I don't know about Tampa specifically, but several of our members live in Florida. Clicking on this link will take you to a couple of posts from members in Florida who may be seeking contact with other Floridian members:

Florida


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - ÆTERNAL - 06-07-2011

(06-07-2011, 03:25 PM)Radu Wrote: Hi Eternal,
what your friends from Italy? do you discuss with the the Law of One and other topics on spiritual evolution?
I would like to know stories about how LOO readers impart this knowledge to their friends, relatives, etc. In my case, for instance, I cannot talk directly about LOO to my parents, because it is something that they have never dreamed of...
therefore, I am trying to find a way, I guess the most natural and honest one, to impart LOO to my family and friends.

Generally people discuss about prophecies and 2012, sometime I feel that there isn' t the will to know and I think it's a part of free will. I discuss the LOO very few times on web, but I discuss it with my family (my wife and my 6 years old son) every day. Today I met my sister that lives far away from me on facebook chat and share with her my videoclip about human path. She was very impressed by the content of images I suggested in my clip so I asked her some question about spiritual situation. Well I think her must be a Wanderer!! She has the same profile, same symptoms of wanderer awakening! She dreams about UFO and alien invasion very often although she is confused about UFO phenomenon and not very sure whether to believe or not.
I said nothing to her, I believe has not yet the time. This thing is very odd: 2 wanderer in a family? It is possible? I really do not know!
In these days, since my first contact with L/L Research stuff, many thing appened to me! I feel like some information arrived to me as a river in flood! Often I feel an intuition! I' m very focused on my research, I think about it every time. The wish to know who am I has paralized me. I would like to start meditation, but I don' t know how! I try it many times, some times I've got some images in my minds, once I heard a male voice who said: "it's not time my son"!! It was Crazy!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Ankh - 06-08-2011

Welcome to the forum, you beautiful soul, and thank you for sharing your story. It was beautiful.

(06-07-2011, 03:25 PM)Radu Wrote: I would like to know stories about how LOO readers impart this knowledge to their friends, relatives, etc. In my case, for instance, I cannot talk directly about LOO to my parents, because it is something that they have never dreamed of...

therefore, I am trying to find a way, I guess the most natural and honest one, to impart LOO to my family and friends.

There is one funny story. When I applied for one job as a nurse, the boss interviewing me asked me if I had any religious beliefs, since the place had catholic roots and a little catholic chapel inside. And without thinking about it, I said "it's not like it is a usual religious belief, but it's a belief, it's called the Law of One." She got stunned and asked what that was. And then I realized what I just said. So I tried to explain that it's a philisophical view where all things, all beings are seen as one. When I walked away I regretted it so much, blaming myself for why I said that, how unnecessary that was etc. But surprise, surprise - I got that job, I still work there and I love it. I told my (russian) mother a while ago too, thinking that she would never understand, and surprise, surprise again - although she was a little bit amused by the story, she understood it. And so did every friend that I've told so far. *shocking eyes* It learned me to have faith in people. Heart


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - ÆTERNAL - 06-08-2011

(06-08-2011, 03:54 AM)Ankh Wrote: Welcome to the forum, you beautiful soul, and thank you for sharing your story. It was beautiful.

(06-07-2011, 03:25 PM)Radu Wrote: I would like to know stories about how LOO readers impart this knowledge to their friends, relatives, etc. In my case, for instance, I cannot talk directly about LOO to my parents, because it is something that they have never dreamed of...

therefore, I am trying to find a way, I guess the most natural and honest one, to impart LOO to my family and friends.

There is one funny story. When I applied for one job as a nurse, the boss interviewing me asked me if I had any religious beliefs, since the place had catholic roots and a little catholic chapel inside. And without thinking about it, I said "it's not like it is a usual religious belief, but it's a belief, it's called the Law of One." She got stunned and asked what that was. And then I realized what I just said. So I tried to explain that it's a philisophical view where all things, all beings are seen as one. When I walked away I regretted it so much, blaming myself for why I said that, how unnecessary that was etc. But surprise, surprise - I got that job, I still work there and I love it. I told my (russian) mother a while ago too, thinking that she would never understand, and surprise, surprise again - although she was a little bit amused by the story, she understood it. And so did every friend that I've told so far. *shocking eyes* It learned me to have faith in people. Heart

Your story is amazing, I recognized in it the same sincerity and devotion that I have and that makes me always to speak about things that everyone could not understand so I finish to blame myself for that I just said and I feel stupid. I think that sometimes silence is better than any word, but your story shows exactly the contrary, just believe in yourself! Thank you for share it!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-08-2011

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Generally people discuss about prophecies and 2012, sometime I feel that there isn' t the will to know and I think it's a part of free will. I discuss the LOO very few times on web, but I discuss it with my family (my wife and my 6 years old son) every day. Today I met my sister that lives far away from me on facebook chat and share with her my videoclip about human path. She was very impressed by the content of images I suggested in my clip so I asked her some question about spiritual situation. Well I think her must be a Wanderer!! She has the same profile, same symptoms of wanderer awakening! She dreams about UFO and alien invasion very often although she is confused about UFO phenomenon and not very sure whether to believe or not.
I said nothing to her, I believe has not yet the time. This thing is very odd: 2 wanderer in a family? It is possible? I really do not know!
In these days, since my first contact with L/L Research stuff, many thing appened to me! I feel like some information arrived to me as a river in flood! Often I feel an intuition! I' m very focused on my research, I think about it every time. The wish to know who am I has paralized me. I would like to start meditation, but I don' t know how! I try it many times, some times I've got some images in my minds, once I heard a male voice who said: "it's not time my son"!! It was Crazy!
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I do have some friends who opened the door themselves to esoteric information and therefore I can discuss with them LOO related topics. Even though my wife does not have any interest in ETs, I do gradually increase the pace at which I give her information on LOO and the like.
(06-07-2011, 08:23 PM)ÆTERNAL Wrote:
(06-07-2011, 03:25 PM)Radu Wrote: Hi Eternal,
what your friends from Italy? do you discuss with the the Law of One and other topics on spiritual evolution?
I would like to know stories about how LOO readers impart this knowledge to their friends, relatives, etc. In my case, for instance, I cannot talk directly about LOO to my parents, because it is something that they have never dreamed of...
therefore, I am trying to find a way, I guess the most natural and honest one, to impart LOO to my family and friends.

Generally people discuss about prophecies and 2012, sometime I feel that there isn' t the will to know and I think it's a part of free will. I discuss the LOO very few times on web, but I discuss it with my family (my wife and my 6 years old son) every day. Today I met my sister that lives far away from me on facebook chat and share with her my videoclip about human path. She was very impressed by the content of images I suggested in my clip so I asked her some question about spiritual situation. Well I think her must be a Wanderer!! She has the same profile, same symptoms of wanderer awakening! She dreams about UFO and alien invasion very often although she is confused about UFO phenomenon and not very sure whether to believe or not.
I said nothing to her, I believe has not yet the time. This thing is very odd: 2 wanderer in a family? It is possible? I really do not know!
In these days, since my first contact with L/L Research stuff, many thing appened to me! I feel like some information arrived to me as a river in flood! Often I feel an intuition! I' m very focused on my research, I think about it every time. The wish to know who am I has paralized me. I would like to start meditation, but I don' t know how! I try it many times, some times I've got some images in my minds, once I heard a male voice who said: "it's not time my son"!! It was Crazy!

I too think that through meditation and dreams I will be able to find who am I and what is the purpose of my incarnation at this time on Earth. That is why I would love to meet with some meditation groups in Tampa while I am here.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - kycahi - 06-08-2011

I usually don't bring my "view" up with anybody, but sometimes I'll stay a little like, "I have some books that say that everything is one and we see each other as separate because of a built-in illusion that everybody shares." If the person I say that to shows interest I might continue with a little more. Usually they politely say something like, "That's fine for you, but I don't want to hear it." I just say okay and move to a different subject.

My sister and her husband are strong believers in a protestant Christian religion, and also very clearly have made their Choice to be STO. So I respect their lifestyle completely. She heard a little about my LOO theory and remembers me talking about my friends Don and Carla or Carla and Jim, but I don't push details on them. They don't need to know anything about the LOO because they clearly love to serve others. Smile


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-08-2011

Dear Ankh,
Thank you so much for sharing your story above. It is inspiring too. You being honest with yourself in the first place and then with your interviewer brought you luck/light.
While reading and learning about LOO I felt warmth and lovingness. Therefore I am almost certain that when one speaks aloud about LOO, he or she will emanate warmth and lovingness which should unquestionably reach peoples' hearts.
(06-08-2011, 12:48 PM)kycahi Wrote: I usually don't bring my "view" up with anybody, but sometimes I'll stay a little like, "I have some books that say that everything is one and we see each other as separate because of a built-in illusion that everybody shares." If the person I say that to shows interest I might continue with a little more. Usually they politely say something like, "That's fine for you, but I don't want to hear it." I just say okay and move to a different subject.

My sister and her husband are strong believers in a protestant Christian religion, and also very clearly have made their Choice to be STO. So I respect their lifestyle completely. She heard a little about my LOO theory and remembers me talking about my friends Don and Carla or Carla and Jim, but I don't push details on them. They don't need to know anything about the LOO because they clearly love to serve others. Smile

Hi Kycahi,
I am Christian Orthodox (Eastern Orthodox). I have cousins who are deeply religious, with the bible and church teachings entrenched in their lifestyle. I love them, of course, but it seems to me they went to the extremes. and they are millions of people like this both in moldova and all eastern european countries. I know that this kind of religious people is very hard to deal with because the they are entrapped in a boxlike logic and they don't see or they don't want to see any other explanation or views of the world.
I know the bible was rewritten around 600 times, it contains a lot of modifications and exclusions (intentionally) and distortions so that is why I cannot just stand aside and watch how my friends or relatives are being held back from the truths about spiritual evolution and the universe.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - ÆTERNAL - 06-08-2011

(06-08-2011, 12:55 PM)Radu Wrote: ...I know the bible was rewritten around 600 times, it contains a lot of modifications and exclusions (intentionally) and distortions so that is why I cannot just stand aside and watch how my friends or relatives are being held back from the truths about spiritual evolution and the universe.

I know the same things!!! I think the same things about what you say!! Today in an Italian forum I discussed about what happen to a soul when the mother aborts. The discussion is moved on baptism and religius choices. When I said that Gesus never wrote any book, he did not produce any document in his own hand and the Bible as the Gospels was rewritten many times by monks in the Middle Ages putting in many distortions and alterations someone attack me saying that I would have to provide proof of what I said! I left the discussion because I think it's not right to press others if they want to ear about new possibility. I respect the free will.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-08-2011

something very interesting occurred while you replied, I was reading the last newsletter from Jan 2011 from a meditation sessions and channeling of Q'uo. Look what they say about Free Will in relation to religious indoctrination: "In the fist place, free will is a matter of perception for each person who is living in incarnation on Planet Earth in third density. If the entity has had a successful indoctrination into some religions, for instance, THE MATTER OF FREE WILL HAS BEEN DECLARED NULL AND VOID AND INSTEAD THE CHILD WILL OBEY EACH DICTATE AND DOGMA OF THE RELIGION which has an answer for every situation, usually heavily couched in judgment and NARROWING ONE'S CHOICES SO THAT THERE ARE PRISONS MADE OF DOGMA, EACH TENET A BAR. the door is locked for the entire incarnation, once such tenets are accepted."
Now Q'uo are calling upon our own discernment and judgment in regard to their thoughts.
But honestly, I feel I agree almost completely to what was said above. If their free will was void from the very birthday by being indoctrinated and inculturated with pre-established dogmas, rules and regulations, we then have the right (but not the obligation) to tell them that their choices has been taken for them by others (by the society, if you will), they did not have to choose, because it was already chosen for them.
In other words, I think in a way that we are allowed to offer them this challenge.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Oceania - 06-08-2011

doesn't that mean there's no chance of them getting it?


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-08-2011

a very good question of yours, Oceania, I might admit.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Oceania - 06-08-2011

thankee Tongue


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-08-2011

The choices must be made within oneself. And there is always a choice! after religious indoctrination, free will may be declared void, but IT IS NOT ALIENATED. It may be a matter of time, of circumstances, of challenges, etc that will eventually lead the individual/entity to realize that.
by the way, I somehow felt this inspiring picture will be appropriate to the topic.
It says: The only way to determine the boundaries of the possible - it to go beyond them!


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - ÆTERNAL - 06-08-2011

(06-08-2011, 06:01 PM)Radu Wrote: something very interesting occurred while you replied, I was reading the last newsletter from Jan 2011 from a meditation sessions and channeling of Q'uo. Look what they say about Free Will in relation to religious indoctrination: "In the fist place, free will is a matter of perception for each person who is living in incarnation on Planet Earth in third density. If the entity has had a successful indoctrination into some religions, for instance, THE MATTER OF FREE WILL HAS BEEN DECLARED NULL AND VOID AND INSTEAD THE CHILD WILL OBEY EACH DICTATE AND DOGMA OF THE RELIGION which has an answer for every situation, usually heavily couched in judgment and NARROWING ONE'S CHOICES SO THAT THERE ARE PRISONS MADE OF DOGMA, EACH TENET A BAR. the door is locked for the entire incarnation, once such tenets are accepted."
Now Q'uo are calling upon our own discernment and judgment in regard to their thoughts.
But honestly, I feel I agree almost completely to what was said above. If their free will was void from the very birthday by being indoctrinated and inculturated with pre-established dogmas, rules and regulations, we then have the right (but not the obligation) to tell them that their choices has been taken for them by others (by the society, if you will), they did not have to choose, because it was already chosen for them.
In other words, I think in a way that we are allowed to offer them this challenge.

Radu thank you so much for reported this section of Q'uo channeling!
It was really a long time I wondered if trying to make others understand that religious indoctrination had come to enslave them means violate the free will of others! This was one of my biggest cause of confusion and contradiction!! However as Q'uo said I think that the "door" of that people is locked so try to make understand them is a waste of time and a lack of respect for their beliefs. I don't want to blame them for their choice.
Thank you again my dear friend, your post was deeply important for meWink
(06-08-2011, 06:06 PM)Oceania Wrote: doesn't that mean there's no chance of them getting it?

I think yes, they are lost Sad


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - Radu - 06-08-2011

You love and light for you, my friend.
by the way, you can get the same newsletter by subscribing to them. do it on this forum. there is such a option. I actually subscribed to any news possible. I do not want to miss anything.


RE: Warm greetings from Moldova - ÆTERNAL - 06-08-2011

(06-08-2011, 07:29 PM)Radu Wrote: You love and light for you, my friend.
by the way, you can get the same newsletter by subscribing to them. do it on this forum. there is such a option. I actually subscribed to any news possible. I do not want to miss anything.

I have some problem with English so I wait that the channelings are translated in my language from the website stazioneceleste.it
I can translate by me, but occour me much time. This is the reason why I can partecipate more intensly to activities of this forum, I'm sorry for thisSad