07-15-2009, 06:13 PM
(07-15-2009, 04:03 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote:(07-15-2009, 12:46 PM)Mattias Wrote: Perhaps the regular source is just a summary of how things happened to bring us to this domain. There have been many prophets and enlightened ones through the ages that have sought out truth and I am sure they have received it.I have never really taken to the idea of them having an actual war. If anything a discussion, or a debate... Even then why would they need to debate? All would be before them and the direction would be clear... that's my thinking anyways.
This is true. But still, I have a feeling that there is a specific origin for this. The idea that Lucifer and Christ had an actual war. As is often described is just too physical. These are divine principles translated into human terms.. Someone did this particular translation. Others have seen the same truth and made other translations you're correct in that. But my gut says there is a source, and as soon as I figure it out I'll be sure to let everyone know. Lol.
Quote:I like that you noticed the Jesus/Lucifer relationship as an alliance. Without Bad there could be no good, where there is darkness there is light.I agree for sure. I think we are too quick to pass off our poor decisions to another entity, or blame something else. I am open to the idea that there is no actual Lucifer, just us against our own lucifer's.
In a way yes. There is the requirement for polarity to create the possibility of choice. However there is no reason to manifest both sides of the polarity.. There only needs to be the possibility of good or evil to allow for the choice. The actual choice of what to manifest is ours.
Anyway, I think it's just us that creates evil. There is no divine requirement for it. Just a divine fiat.
Quote: Lucifer will receive his own degree of glory that he has aligned himself with, by his own choice. It's certainly not a punishment. God does not punish us, we are only bound by universal laws and principles that the God of our Galaxy has a full understanding of. That's my belief.I have nothing to add to this All is as it should be. Namaste friend.
So if the above is true that we are our own Lucifer's then we will indeed receive to each our own!
Perhaps the "war in heaven" was us debating with our selves on whether or not to incarnate on this planet, and weighing out the potential risk/reward scenarios... Maybe the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven talked about in Mormonism is the wanderers, based on Ra's readings of 60 million wanderers back in the 80's, and I haven't done the math but that could be at least 1/3 of the hosts of the earth....
It's all interesting to think about.