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    Thread: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations


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    06-29-2022, 08:09 AM (This post was last modified: 06-29-2022, 08:13 AM by Sacred Fool.)
    (06-29-2022, 06:11 AM)zedro Wrote:
    (06-29-2022, 01:18 AM)Sacred Fool Wrote: On the topic of emotion and wisdom, I would not argue with your point, but I would take it a step deeper by suggesting that wisdom is an ornament of emotion, they are not equal in value. 

    Wisdom (in the archetypal sense) is definitely not ornamental, it is the true understanding of love. That is why it's the 5th ray/density after Love.

    I would suggest it is actually the opposite of being merely an 'ornament of emotion`, it is fundamental to understanding oneself, including that of emotion, to which I would regard emotion as ornamental to Love.

    Clearly there are different ways to view this matter.  Perhaps the simplest is that when the Creatrix/Creator first became aware, It did not become aware of wisdom, rather, It became aware of love.  Love antecedes Light.  Wisdom gives perspective on love, not the other way around (in a primordial sense), in the fundamental scheme of things, according to the alien ideology.  (Don't blame me!  ha ha)  According to them, purified emotion--not reasoning--is the core of Self.  Instead, reasoning is an aid (offering perspective) along the path to discovering the true heart of Self.  This is why love is studied and master before wisdom. But maybe others are better informed than Confederation sources on this topic?

    Of course, this business is only relevant to those who are working to seek beyond the small self (which thinks) to merge into the larger Self which knows.  The idea is that that larger Self "knows," not via logic, but through a purified experience of being which correlates much more clearly with what we call emotion.

    Stepping back from this, I realise it sounds off because we typically identify emotion with ephemeral, surface oriented experience and we tend to consider deliberate cognitive expression a deeper form of experience.  So, how can emotion be deeper than deep thought?  What's presented to us in the channeling is that the heart's deep knowing of love, for example, vibrates more deeply than any thinking can reach. 

    One formidable problem in discuss this, however, is that understanding the comparison can only come through direct personal experience.  So, if one person's experience encompasses this and the other's does not, then the discussion will be fruitless, I would suppose.

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    New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-23-2022, 01:30 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-23-2022, 03:05 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-23-2022, 03:42 PM
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    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-26-2022, 07:05 PM
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    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-28-2022, 07:48 AM
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