06-25-2022, 11:29 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-25-2022, 11:37 AM by Spiritualchaos.)
(06-25-2022, 03:42 AM)tadeus Wrote: The tragic thing is that such people are convinced to have escaped from the matrix, but it is only a transformation from one matrix into another.
This is troublesome to me. I feel like we are at a transitional place where it is almost impossible for anyone to discern what is useful or helpful information from a strictly logical perspective. Everyone’s journey is so personal, that I believe only through the heart and looking inward, is the only way you can truly understand what you need to know, and what is true. And even then, it’s a matter of faith in trusting what your heart is telling you. People need to connect to their hearts, as your heart always knows what is good information and what is not. If you can learn to develop the skills of listening to your heart and using your logical mind to balance those thoughts in a more grounded way, it should be easier to find out what you need to find. But people are being flooded with information and are disconnected to their hearts in a way that makes it impossible for them to use that discernment in order to spiritually evolve. There is no way for them to sort it out with their minds, as all their minds want to do is collect endless information until that information starts to serious contradict itself in a very noticeable way, thus making the whole process even more confusing.
(06-25-2022, 03:42 AM)tadeus Wrote: Again i must think at the story of Siddhartha: A Poem of India by Hermann Hesse - it is describing this situation in a nice way.
"To know the difference between useful and unhelpful information" is hard work of learning and processing of all the informations.
But that's what the people not want - they want a teacher that is prompting the result, while they are sitting there and drinking a cup of coffee in a group.
Just following the programmed pattern of school - but the main things have to be digged out individually in hard work.
So it was a smart move to drive people out of self-taught learning.
Smart move on who’s behalf? I’m not sure if I agree with this statement, but maybe I just am unclear as to what you are trying to say here. People want to sit and groups and have the experience, but are they taking those experiences out in the real world with them, are they truly absorbing the information and integrating it into their lives? Is anyone teaching others on how that looks from a feminine/feeling perspective, or is everyone just trying to integrate more with their minds, and wonder why they are so confused as to why they are not feeling any better. They are only being taught one side of the equation, no one is giving real life examples for these teachings that are actually useful and relatable. It’s one thing to be taught concepts logically but it’s a whole other story on figuring out how to integrate them into your life efficiently. This society is far too logical as it is, like they are trying to learn their way to enlightenment, bypassing completely the heart chakra, and wondering why they are not getting any better. That sounds like service to self teachings coming out of service to others teachers for service to others students. It does not vibe with them because they only have one side of it, they are balancing wisdom but not love.
(06-25-2022, 03:42 AM)tadeus Wrote: I could observe several times that people tried to teach selflessly, but at some point they always got frustrated by the lazy people who just sit there laughing and drinking coffee and want just to be entertained, but telling they want to learn something.
Attend this week your seminar and the next week another with maybe the opposite content, telling that you have spoken nonsense without any thought on the content.
So it is not surprising that at some point a teacher will give up and will concentrate on the livelihood and the business.
The staged New-Age-movement is simply a briliant plan and is just a continuation of the preparatory programming before it.
I can see this in my own personal spiritual connection to one of these teachers. They started off with such noble intentions it feels like. It was about the information, and getting it out there in the most understanding way possible. They were replying to people’s comments with love and compassion, addressing them by their names, trying to relate to them, etc. Then they got popular and their teachings as a whole became distorted. They started contradicting themselves from one episode to the next, they are becoming visibly annoyed by the people they do interviews with, and they created their own offshoot of spirituality that feels like trying to graph logical principles onto someone’s heart, instead of letting them integrate them in a more organic way. Then I noticed their very few personal stories are repetitive, like they had one experience that drew them in to be a teacher, yet have no new stories to offer in 5 years? That is strange to me, because it becomes obvious that they do not even practice the things they teach and are not really progressing themselves, even though they have convinced themselves fully from all this “information” that they are correct, and in turn, use their own intelligence against themselves. From a tiny bit of research, I uncovered that this person has been exaggerating all their experiences to make themselves look more humble to the world, literally leaving clues all over the internet to prove otherwise. I wanted to understand what was happening to them out of concern, so I did a little digging as I knew something was wrong because I could feel it when I watched their videos. Seeing a wanderer who teaches spirituality for a living, getting that lost in the Matrix is a little terrifying, especially considering he should know better, but the world we have put ourselves in is a very dangerous one. It is impossible to tell what people’s motivations are sometimes. Even when you think you have it figured out, it turns out you are wrong. It takes a very long time to develop this ability to discern what is good and what isn’t, and using your mind alone will get you nowhere. Think about all the stories of cultures that annihilated themselves by trying to use logical knowledge to accelerate spiritual growth… Mars… Maldek… Atlantis. And many others. It’s not a good idea.