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    Thread: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price.


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    04-13-2022, 11:35 AM
    (04-12-2022, 12:23 PM)tadeus Wrote: In the third and fourth it is "normal" that you have to "fight" for your freedom and free will.
    Later on it is "possible" to do this as a thought-battle ...

    I was unaware of my freedom until I had surrendered it to some authority, in one way or another and then had to claim it back. Looking back on my life, and of what I know of human history (as flawed as that story is), I see that my (and humanity's) conceptual boundaries are defined by exploring their opposites. What is sustainable is defined through unsustainable behavior. My happiness/bliss/joy is known/quantified only through my experience of sadness/misery/suffering. In my daily life, I often find that I enjoy letting myself become borderline dehydrated or very hungry before drinking water or consuming food. It is when I am dying of thirst that water is most precious and that glorious feeling of being quenched does not occur when I stay continually hydrated throughout the day.

    In the same way, at a larger fractal scale, humanity as whole must experience moments (sometimes extended moments) of oppression to fully know and appreciate our natural state of freedom. Of course we want to "fight" long and hard for it because, as anyone who plays chess knows, it's not very much fun to make one move and win the game. The best games are the ones where the notion of victory and defeat flip-flop until defeat is all but certain and still, somehow there is a miraculous rising from the ashes of said defeat to claim a final victory. And although that victory may explicitly seem to be over others (the illusion), it is always over one's own self, specifically over one's ideas of limitations placed on one's self.

    Thanks to Tadeus and everyone else who contributed to this conversation and allowing me to contemplate more on freedom.

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    Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Ming the Merciful - 03-09-2022, 06:11 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Patrick - 03-09-2022, 07:15 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Ming the Merciful - 03-09-2022, 07:26 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Mettadohm - 04-10-2022, 12:56 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Dtris - 04-10-2022, 10:26 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Mettadohm - 04-11-2022, 01:12 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by IndigoSalvia - 04-10-2022, 10:17 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by 3-24-2022 - 04-12-2022, 02:33 AM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by tadeus - 04-12-2022, 12:23 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Mettadohm - 04-13-2022, 11:35 AM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by tadeus - 04-13-2022, 12:20 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by flofrog - 04-13-2022, 03:21 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by tadeus - 04-14-2022, 12:44 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Loki - 04-14-2022, 03:04 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by tadeus - 04-15-2022, 03:24 AM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by jafar - 04-18-2022, 04:30 PM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Aion - 04-19-2022, 12:51 AM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by Aion - 04-19-2022, 01:07 AM
    RE: Freedom is not free. Freedom has to be fought for and at a price. - by tadeus - 04-19-2022, 06:09 AM

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