10-31-2021, 02:19 AM
(10-31-2021, 12:15 AM)flow Wrote:(10-30-2021, 01:39 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote: And you might be missing something here.of course i amYou have a lot company in this respect, myself included, to be sure.
(10-30-2021, 01:39 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote: ...And that applies to 6D as much as it does here, so far as I can tell. That's why there is a 7D.ok, look, this is a good example of what i was saying.
you can not tell anything about 6D, let alone 7D for that matter.
you talk about sixth density because you've read about it in Ra material. it is not the result of your direct meditative insight or of contacting intelligent infinity. it is a knowledge from a book. i don't wanna sound patronizing or dismissive or anything negative of the sort, but you have no direct idea what six density is like, what a catalyst of the six density is like, what experience of the six density is like. we can only rely on what Ra, Tealonn or other six density members of Confederation share with us. we can not experience six density directly. therefore, our "understanding" is second-hand and incomplete, therefore we can not even call it true understanding, it is just crumbles of information. Yes, and the spiritual lessons overlap. Look at Ra's naivete, for instance. They are learning to be more discerning of the darker inclinations of humanoid creatures while we are learning to be more discerning of whole hearted love.
"Crumbs of information?" Maybe. Or maybe learning to operate from one's deepest self--even in 3D--is not so dramatically different from the way they operate? You can decide that for yourself; I see a similarity.
(10-30-2021, 01:39 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote: ...If an entity travels here from 6D...that is very big "If".
thinking of oneself as Wanderer may lead one into a trap of false spiritual security. one may think, "oh, i am a wanderer, so upon cessation of my chemical body i will just go to my home density, i am safe". but Wanderes are not safe, as Ra mentioned.
another trap of thinking of oneself as Wanderer is that you either actually may not be one at all or you may be a fourth or a fifth density wanderer.
in other words, there is no "wandermeter" to check if one is a wanderer or not and - if yes - then what density one came from. this whole idea of thinking of oneself as a wanderer may very well be just wishful thinking.
Yes, I see potential drawbacks, do you see potential advantages to understanding one's purpose for incarnating here? Personally, I see an advantage to being open minded about what one's home density might be, but if one sees that the themes of one's life experiences correlate with themes a wanderer would wish to explore here in this Vale of Tears, why not respond accordingly and search oneself for internal understanding along these lines?
(10-30-2021, 01:39 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote: ..to balance the forces of love, power and wisdom...Ra have never said anything about balancing power with love and wisdom. Quo often speaks about power being a theme for wanderers along with love and wisdom. I can look up some relevant passages if you would like.
(10-30-2021, 01:39 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote: ..then it seems askew--to me--to argue that there is no point in trying to understand what these lessons might be and in trying to gain more insight into the relationships of these things.it seems askew, sure, but where did i argue there is no point in trying to understand?
i was trying to convey 2 things:
1. there is no way a third density being can understand sixth density lessons, or any other higher density.
2. Ra said explicitly about third density understanding
Quote:I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.
That's true in the sense that here we can only really understand things within the context of our own being and don't have the objectivity of one who, for example, has completed their incantation and crossed over to time/space. On the other hand, the whole point here, as I read it, is to come to the deepest understanding we can within this difficult context and act as best we can in accord with the deepest vibration of self we can sniff out among all the distractions. The goal of the most devoted, according to Ra, is not to use the mind to figure out the best way to get along in the illusion, but is to move out from the shadows into the pure light of that which our understanding cannot reach, but which we can reach through recognition of our own inherent vibration of Divinity. Does that ring true, according to your understanding?