Orion Empire and Free Will

[EvolvingPhoenix]

This whole conversation cracks me up a little bit. (In a light-hearted way, of course.) Pigeon-holing either "positive" or "negative" paths seems to me to be little more than the projection of desires onto a dualistic belief system, which ironically is the thing I think we're trying to look beyond.

STS and STO will be whatever people want them to be in order to justify their own choice of activity, and the truth is going to be thrown from one side to the next til we're all blue.
There isn't some third-party "path" with its own self-identity, the "positive" and "negative" paths are not "things in themselves" but just a morally philosophical way of discussing the element of choice in reality. "The Path" doesn't have polarity, it is one, and it can lead through many environments.

There are "positive" adepts who completely detach themselves from other-selves, and "negative" adepts who are highly social and 'friendly', and vice versa.

The same does not always beget the same either I think. A highly "positive" environment does not assure positivity for all, nor does the opposite assure negativity. There is always the freedom of will and the response to catalyst. Even Ra had their share of negative outgrowths and schisms.

From what I understand, both positive and negative paths strive towards individuation, I think it's a projection from religion to think either would move towards conformity. There is perhaps more 'consideration' on the 'positive' side, but there is certainly just as much unique individuality on both sides from what I've experienced. In my opinion, those tending towards conformity are likely still somewhere in the sinkhole.

Nobody is denying most of what you said, except for the last bit, which is a fair point actually.

Nonetheless, my point about most people and circles who orient their philosophies in either direction tend to be full of s*** and generally poor examples how to go about either path. While you CAN just chalk up any and all criticisms up to self projection of you want, it would probably be a better idea to consider the point being made. To each their own however.