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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Orion Empire and Free Will

    Thread: Orion Empire and Free Will


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    03-20-2021, 09:29 PM
    (03-20-2021, 08:43 PM)zedro Wrote:
    (03-20-2021, 08:35 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: No. STO unity is less individualistic and from what I can tell, has less room for individual thought as such. There is more confirmity.

    Well we will have to disagree on that  BigSmile

    And conformity is a very specific word, it has different implications than harmony or unity, as it suggests an enforced bending of ones will to transform oneself to an ideal (and who sets the ideal?). The ones who demand conformity in this realm are definitely not positive types, or are at least very distorted (religious/cult types).

    In STS society, you are supposed to determine your own ideals, and live in service to thkse ideals. If you enslave yourself to another, you are expected to do so because it furthers YOUR interests to do so, therefor, your ideals. If there is a stronger entity who serves your mutually aligned ideals, servimg them is helping them serve thise ideals, and therefor yourself. But you are serving them not because you are expected to serve that ideal which is not your own, but because you have determined for yourself the ideal, and thatnserving such an emtity is what best alugns with your rational self interest. The moment you become stronger than your master, you prove to be the entity more strongly aligned with your ideals, thus providing you the authority to determine how those ideals are best served.

    The religious cults are not positive, no. But theynare not sufficiently negative formharvest either. As I have said earlier, all I see around me on this planet are examples of how NOT to walk either path. Both have much posturing all over the earth. Inwoukd posit based on what I have seen that New Age culture is every bit as much of a fake-posotive, self righteous, conformity demanding cult as any Abrahamic faith. Full of self righteous hypocrites who purport to be positive and loving towards other, but whose decision making and behaviour often suggrsts a distinct LACK of understanding, compassion or acceptance of thise who probably need it the most. Frequently full of harsh self righteous judgements, which are often nicewashed with fake positive rationalizations and self-contradictions and spin. More often than not doing "positive" things or putting on "positive" appearances in fear of their image looking bad or their morally pure self image being tarnished. Trying to be "good people" instead of honest ones. Like the Abrahamic faiths, living in fear of external judgement, even if unconsciously. Frequemtly, morally grandstanding. Often doing benevolent deeds to score brownie points so they "raise their bubration" enough to get into heaven- I'm sorry, I mean, Positive 4th density utopia.

    Just as you take the Abrahamic death cults and mainstream LHP circles as bad examples of the STS path, so too can one take the New Age movement, and most of it's "starseeds" as bad examples of how to walk the RHP.

    If you delve into LHP circles, you will find theynare FILLED with people who left their respective circles (either Abrahamic religion or New Age RHP circles, usually) because they were turned off by the self righteous, grandstanding, hypocritical bullshit. Just like many who leave LHP or Abrahamic circles for new age spirituality because they were turned off by the same thing. On this planet, being your true self is the uktimate challenge, for everything seems designed to keep you frommdoing so, and everyone likes to point the finger for that and blame everyone and everything but themselves and the movements or circles they are a part of. RHP blames LHP and vice versa. Not so commonly do people take an honest look at themselves and their own cultures. And when somebody comes along and goes against the group think mentality, rocking the boat and pointing out uncomfortable things such communities and/or people dont want to have to look at, they tend to be met with castigation, including in RHP circles.

    Because they feel "disrespected" by the uncomfortable truth being pointed out.

    if the emporer has no clothes and insists that he is just wesring invisible clothes, it is considered "disrespectful" to call him on his bullshit and tell him he is naked. People often refuse to point out the uncomfortable truths because they fear the consequences of "disrespecting" the emporer by rocking the boat, but it needs to be done. Which is the point of that story.

    Yet both LHP and RHP circles tend to be full of communities who refuse to allow for that kind of transgression, necause they all tend to get defensive.

    So as I was pointing out earlier, it helps to separate the idea/philosphy/path/whatever from the people who may or may not be properly adhering to it, and judge it on it's own terms. If we are judging based on the followers, both paths are s***, by and large.

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