03-20-2021, 02:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-20-2021, 02:42 PM by EvolvingPhoenix.)
@flofrog
Not necessarily. That line of thinking very much exists here on Earth, but only because there are so few examples of how to do the RHP right. Jesus of Nazareth was NOT an example anyone harvestable on the LHP can get behind because his martyrdom lacked wisdom, not to mention that while better than most from his time, he still preached tyrannical concepts regarding women and childrens' relation to men, as well as the entirely fear bases tyrannical notion of eternal damnation, The L/L Research Center has A LOT of skeletons in it's closet (from what I have been told) Don Elkins was an outright sociopath who only since joining Orion has finally accepted his sociopathic nature and come put of the polarity closet, Carla had a martyrdom complex rooted in childhood issues and Ra seems to make the same mistakes over and over again. I mean, has anyone researched Ahknaten? He was a tyrannical sociopath! And Then Ra searched far and wide for the original L/L trio. And one of THEM was a sociopath by all regards. At least from the perspective of harvestably negative entities I have talked to who have met the guy. Granted, they met him in the astral, post suicide, after joining Orion to save Carla, so of course he's not gonna be rainbows and sunshine Skittles, but by the sounds of things, he was quite negative even before that and refused to admit it to himself. He STILL won't admit his abusive relationship with Carla from what I have gathered.
I sometimes think Agua might be a good example. Maybe Eckhart Tolle.
The only example I know of that exemplifies the RHP in a way that seems respectable is Jim McCarty, who I have heard nothing but good things about, even from Orion sources. Though they consider his path insane, and the unconditional universal spreading of green ray energy all over the place to be the most asinine use of anahata energy imaginable (Orion warriors do not ACTUALLY close the Anahata, as that would not be feasible anyway, they just spin it much more slowly and use it in a much more limited way, thus "closing it off" from Ra's point of view, because their use of such energy is conditional) they nonetheless can respect when someone truly knows who they are, what they desire and needs no validation from anyone else over it, amd does so from a place of personal power, with discipline and in a way that does not lack wisdom. This is how I am told Jim is. If there were more people like Jim on this planet, I think the RHP would male a lot more sense to a lot more people. He was the "sane man" of the group. The other 2 had deep seated issues, especially Don.
As it stands, there are too many people along the RHP to possibly count who are to wrapped up in trying to come across as (and be) "good people" for the RHP to really make much sense to most. It comes off as exactly what it far too often is: a bunch of self righteous hippies talking a good game about love and acceptance and empathy but at best, just going through the motions to score brownie points and at worst, just outright lying to themselves and others and acting like massive fucking hypocrites.
The LHP on this planet is not much better. You can find useful sources but you either have to REALLY dig, know the right people or both. Most of what the mainstream LHP communities teach is rudimentary s***. Supposedly stuff a 3rd grader on a negative planet might learn. Too much emphasis is placed upon sophistry and egotistical posturing, just like in most RHP circles. And most of us who delve into sorcery do so more on account of our red amd especially sacral chakra blockages than on account of serious spiritual seeking. I admit, I too have this issue.
There just aren't enough truly good examples of either path to go by. We know only of Rasputin and Ghengis Kahn what ia told through HIGHLY distorted lenses.
I do know a Death Defies who has some similar philosophies to Orion (and some serious differences as well. Clearly his own thing) and he is, while quite negative from a RHP perspective, still of the attitude that there are infinite ways to skin a cat and that while unconditional love to him is irrational, respect is essential in his view, thus all entities are deserving of respect. In his view, a warrior recognizes that not all are meant to be warriors nor are all warriors meant to be the same way. We are all each and every one of us, first and foremost individuals and thus a warrior ensures to give as much freedom and respect to others as possible. In his view, not all are meant to be warriors amd some are better suited to the path of the devotee. Neither is wrong, just individual. It's all about knowing who you really are. At least in his view. Due to the individual nature of this man's views, this is still in accordance with the LHP, because it is all about maintaining one's individuality at all costs, rejecting unity.
I had the sophist mentality for a while until I started realizing that it isn't the RHP itself I had a problem with, but most of the people I have known who have purported to wall it. Ironically, this realization came only after allowing an entity from Orion top brass to rewrite aspects of my personality and help unblock certain blockages. Molech-sama's effects on me were far more subtle than others I know of. This may be because I am not yet initiated, nor committed to the LHP. If anything, whatever he did caused me to reconsider the RHP. I have yet to understand just what he did or how it benefits him exactly.
I am still very much torn between the two paths. I still have yet to understand myself.
But my point, before going into a tangent ia that not all LHP entities have a sophist mentality, necessarily. Ultimately, it's less about one size fitting all amd more about different entitities having their own path. It boils down to unity vs. Individuality.
I have spoken to negative entities who have made harvestable contact with intelligent infinity. By the sounds of it, it is an indescribably horrifying experience. All infinite possibilities and all infinite infinities witnessed all at once, including all infinite heavens, all infinite helps and all things im between and beyond. In unity with it all, there is supposedly a feeling of bliss, but to a sufficiently negative entity it is an empty bliss. In their view, when you become one with everything you can't really be anything. Thus they reject such unity and choose to (in their view) survive intstead of "dissolving into oneness" choosing to exist. They believe the desire for unity is born of a desire to regress and "return to the black womb" To not exist anymore. To rest. They view the challenge of existence as one only for those with a warrior spirit. One with the grit and determination to survive. To adventure.
Orion philosophy seems to be inherently absurdist in nature, viewing existence as lacking any inherent meaning because infinity is impersonal and only cares about possibility, giving us all a chance to become something (free will) and leaving the rest up to us. In their view, what we do with such opportunity is pur prerogative. They see our fears as being rooted in a kind of existential dread that comes from deep down knowing the inherently impersonal nature of infinity itself and the lack of inherent meaning. In their view, meaning is the responsibility of each and every one of us to create for ourselves, and nobody else's. They see this burden as the challenge of existence, and the warrior path as suited to it. Maybe because the warrior spirit does not rest and and embraces challenge amd adversity. To them, it seems, the creation of meaning where there is otherwise none is the highest form of magick and the ultimate form of creation. True power. But each meaning is inherently subjective, if that is the case, is it not?
This may however be a 6th density perspective however...
Not necessarily. That line of thinking very much exists here on Earth, but only because there are so few examples of how to do the RHP right. Jesus of Nazareth was NOT an example anyone harvestable on the LHP can get behind because his martyrdom lacked wisdom, not to mention that while better than most from his time, he still preached tyrannical concepts regarding women and childrens' relation to men, as well as the entirely fear bases tyrannical notion of eternal damnation, The L/L Research Center has A LOT of skeletons in it's closet (from what I have been told) Don Elkins was an outright sociopath who only since joining Orion has finally accepted his sociopathic nature and come put of the polarity closet, Carla had a martyrdom complex rooted in childhood issues and Ra seems to make the same mistakes over and over again. I mean, has anyone researched Ahknaten? He was a tyrannical sociopath! And Then Ra searched far and wide for the original L/L trio. And one of THEM was a sociopath by all regards. At least from the perspective of harvestably negative entities I have talked to who have met the guy. Granted, they met him in the astral, post suicide, after joining Orion to save Carla, so of course he's not gonna be rainbows and sunshine Skittles, but by the sounds of things, he was quite negative even before that and refused to admit it to himself. He STILL won't admit his abusive relationship with Carla from what I have gathered.
I sometimes think Agua might be a good example. Maybe Eckhart Tolle.
The only example I know of that exemplifies the RHP in a way that seems respectable is Jim McCarty, who I have heard nothing but good things about, even from Orion sources. Though they consider his path insane, and the unconditional universal spreading of green ray energy all over the place to be the most asinine use of anahata energy imaginable (Orion warriors do not ACTUALLY close the Anahata, as that would not be feasible anyway, they just spin it much more slowly and use it in a much more limited way, thus "closing it off" from Ra's point of view, because their use of such energy is conditional) they nonetheless can respect when someone truly knows who they are, what they desire and needs no validation from anyone else over it, amd does so from a place of personal power, with discipline and in a way that does not lack wisdom. This is how I am told Jim is. If there were more people like Jim on this planet, I think the RHP would male a lot more sense to a lot more people. He was the "sane man" of the group. The other 2 had deep seated issues, especially Don.
As it stands, there are too many people along the RHP to possibly count who are to wrapped up in trying to come across as (and be) "good people" for the RHP to really make much sense to most. It comes off as exactly what it far too often is: a bunch of self righteous hippies talking a good game about love and acceptance and empathy but at best, just going through the motions to score brownie points and at worst, just outright lying to themselves and others and acting like massive fucking hypocrites.
The LHP on this planet is not much better. You can find useful sources but you either have to REALLY dig, know the right people or both. Most of what the mainstream LHP communities teach is rudimentary s***. Supposedly stuff a 3rd grader on a negative planet might learn. Too much emphasis is placed upon sophistry and egotistical posturing, just like in most RHP circles. And most of us who delve into sorcery do so more on account of our red amd especially sacral chakra blockages than on account of serious spiritual seeking. I admit, I too have this issue.
There just aren't enough truly good examples of either path to go by. We know only of Rasputin and Ghengis Kahn what ia told through HIGHLY distorted lenses.
I do know a Death Defies who has some similar philosophies to Orion (and some serious differences as well. Clearly his own thing) and he is, while quite negative from a RHP perspective, still of the attitude that there are infinite ways to skin a cat and that while unconditional love to him is irrational, respect is essential in his view, thus all entities are deserving of respect. In his view, a warrior recognizes that not all are meant to be warriors nor are all warriors meant to be the same way. We are all each and every one of us, first and foremost individuals and thus a warrior ensures to give as much freedom and respect to others as possible. In his view, not all are meant to be warriors amd some are better suited to the path of the devotee. Neither is wrong, just individual. It's all about knowing who you really are. At least in his view. Due to the individual nature of this man's views, this is still in accordance with the LHP, because it is all about maintaining one's individuality at all costs, rejecting unity.
I had the sophist mentality for a while until I started realizing that it isn't the RHP itself I had a problem with, but most of the people I have known who have purported to wall it. Ironically, this realization came only after allowing an entity from Orion top brass to rewrite aspects of my personality and help unblock certain blockages. Molech-sama's effects on me were far more subtle than others I know of. This may be because I am not yet initiated, nor committed to the LHP. If anything, whatever he did caused me to reconsider the RHP. I have yet to understand just what he did or how it benefits him exactly.
I am still very much torn between the two paths. I still have yet to understand myself.
But my point, before going into a tangent ia that not all LHP entities have a sophist mentality, necessarily. Ultimately, it's less about one size fitting all amd more about different entitities having their own path. It boils down to unity vs. Individuality.
I have spoken to negative entities who have made harvestable contact with intelligent infinity. By the sounds of it, it is an indescribably horrifying experience. All infinite possibilities and all infinite infinities witnessed all at once, including all infinite heavens, all infinite helps and all things im between and beyond. In unity with it all, there is supposedly a feeling of bliss, but to a sufficiently negative entity it is an empty bliss. In their view, when you become one with everything you can't really be anything. Thus they reject such unity and choose to (in their view) survive intstead of "dissolving into oneness" choosing to exist. They believe the desire for unity is born of a desire to regress and "return to the black womb" To not exist anymore. To rest. They view the challenge of existence as one only for those with a warrior spirit. One with the grit and determination to survive. To adventure.
Orion philosophy seems to be inherently absurdist in nature, viewing existence as lacking any inherent meaning because infinity is impersonal and only cares about possibility, giving us all a chance to become something (free will) and leaving the rest up to us. In their view, what we do with such opportunity is pur prerogative. They see our fears as being rooted in a kind of existential dread that comes from deep down knowing the inherently impersonal nature of infinity itself and the lack of inherent meaning. In their view, meaning is the responsibility of each and every one of us to create for ourselves, and nobody else's. They see this burden as the challenge of existence, and the warrior path as suited to it. Maybe because the warrior spirit does not rest and and embraces challenge amd adversity. To them, it seems, the creation of meaning where there is otherwise none is the highest form of magick and the ultimate form of creation. True power. But each meaning is inherently subjective, if that is the case, is it not?
This may however be a 6th density perspective however...