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    02-12-2021, 12:14 PM
    (02-11-2021, 08:48 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote:
    (02-11-2021, 08:26 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote: Now whether decisions of certain third-density individuals or governments or societies actions are *actual* infringements upon free will, and whether, if so, some infringements may be warranted (as may happen in legal code or for a collective good)... these are the questions that are the the stuff of third density. And beyond my powers to figure out from my standpoint of confusion.

    Perhaps this is the point of the quotation above, viz., there is no objective standard, per se, of what constitutes infringement?  Each must work it out for oneself.  There are other passages where it's clear that the larger concern is karma accrued from such acts, and one does not accrue karma when one is unaware of the infringement.  So, was there infringement in such cases?  Yes, form one perspective and no from another?

    Perhaps it comes down to how much responsibility an entity is willing and able to take for....for....for existence?  For consciousness?

         

    "...there is no objective standard, per se, of what constitutes infringement?"

    That's a really interesting question. I'm not entirely sure myself. To think out loud while responding... it seems that there could be several possibilities:

    (1A) There is a universal, objective standard which is unaffected by the subjective perceptions of whether and how infringement has occurred
    (1B) There is a universal, objective standard which is affected by, or does take into account, the subjective perceptions of whether and how infringement has occurred.

    (2) There is no universal, objective standard that measures and certifies the occurrence of infringement. Infringement is all an entirely subjective exercise dependent upon whether one or both or multiple involved parties perceive infringement to have transpired.

    I would lean toward 1B in one formula or another. Reasons:

    On the objective side: Third-Density Entity A may not think that they have infringed upon the free will of another, they may even feel right and justified in the action, but nevertheless - by the operational laws of the universe combined with their own post-incarnational/higher self assessment - they will reap the fruit of their infringing actions. Whether that is a reduction in harvestability (if polarizing positively), a blockage/imbalance in their energy system with subsequent change to their violet-ray spectrum, and/or an accretion of karma.

    As Spaced pointed out, there is a good deal explored in the RC about infringement between those of higher densities in relationship to those of lower. It is a specialized case that involves a dance with free will that I don't fully understand, but it may offer some window. They of the higher densities seem always to be assessing for the prospect of infringement in decision-making, sometimes determining that infringement has occurred, against some kind of universal measure or standard. Their understanding of that standard becomes more subtle, refined, and enlightened with evolution.

    On the subjective side: The subjective perceptions of each involved party (the one doing the infringing and the one done unto) and the variety of responses that each may have in their conscious appraisal of the situation must yet play a role.

    Simple examples: maybe the infringer feels guilt and remorse, or castigates the self, and thus resolves to make amends, seek forgiveness, and make more loving future choices. Maybe the infringer feels smug and satisfied, or feels even a perverse joy in the infringement, thus seeking more.

    Maybe the one who is infringed upon does not perceive infringement to have occurred, or maybe they feel a diminishment of power, or a desire for retribution, or an opportunity to express compassion, understanding, and forgiveness, etc.

    Point being, there is an interplay between the infinitely subjective perceptions that will affect or layer over the objective occurrence of the infringement.

    Again, just thoughts out loud. Always appreciate the opportunity to dance with other thinkers in this forum.

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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    Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Spaced - 02-10-2021, 02:45 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Patrick - 02-10-2021, 02:52 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Spaced - 02-10-2021, 03:20 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Patrick - 02-10-2021, 07:55 PM
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    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Spaced - 02-10-2021, 03:59 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Diana - 02-10-2021, 04:02 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by zedro - 02-10-2021, 11:57 PM
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