(02-11-2021, 03:40 AM)Sacred Fool Wrote:(02-11-2021, 02:57 AM)Aion Wrote: Said another way, an adept initiating others without their consent would also be infringing.
It's not only adepts who mislead the uninitiated.
Maybe 20 years ago there was an article (back when we read newspapers) about a guy who had been up in the Sierras (in Calif.) who had an arrow shot through his eyeball and lodged in his head. It said the medics restrained his arms because he was trying to pull it out.
The docs cut away part of his rear skull, clipped the arrow short, sanitized the remaining portion and pushed it out the back of his head without doing much damage to what he had for a brain.
The patient explained that he was joining "friends" who were "initiating" him into some kind of mountain man club. They made various false promises, but it involved a good bit of drinking and then him putting something on his head for another guy to try to shoot an arrow through (like William Tell).
The article ended with the patient saying, "Yeah, I feel really stupid."
Was his free will abridged? Hmm, yeah, maybe a little?
True although I would caveat that individuals whom have gone to the lengths to consciously deceive, have created and maintained such an organization, as well as developing such 'rituals' or demands they are well aware could result in the death of another person, are, in my opinion, definitely pushing some degree of adeptness in consciousness of the rather self-serving variety. Adepts aren't usually people in robes performing rituals under the moonlight (or midday sun for those sunny folk), they are people who have developed enough awareness of how to use their choices to the benefit or detriment of others that they are not acting 'unconsciously'.