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    Thread: Transient, Sustained and Eternal


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    01-25-2021, 02:56 PM (This post was last modified: 01-25-2021, 02:58 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    The context of the "grass that blooms, withers, and dies" quote that has been posted deals with Don asking about the specifics of channeling groups being greeted by negative entities and how to remain a "pure" channel. Ra responds: "To give you this information would be to infringe upon the free will, or confusion, of some living. We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences; it is the importance placed upon it."

    [Edit: Minyataur beat me to it as I was writing this post. Tongue ]

    While they're speaking about negative greeting in this context, I think it seems natural to extrapolate this to the discussion about how a focus on "specific information" has an effect on both the tuning of a channel, but also in the focus of our seeking processes. I think what Ra is saying is just a simple way of talking about the effect isn't in the nature of the information itself, but in how the seeker relates to the information.

    So I suppose, hypothetically, a channel could focus on stock market predictions and the Kentucky Derby winner, but if their orientation towards that information was purely spiritual in nature, there would be no detuning in the channel nor the entity's path. But that's only considering an individual's path of seeking isolation. Once that individual seeking becomes collective - they are sharing the fruits of their seeking with the world by some means - the nature of that sharing contributes to the tuning of the information and the path. The focus for the individual/channel/group might be purely on the eternal qualities of the transient information, but if the sharing of those fruits includes the surface, "transient" details, it could serve more as a distraction than an aid for those who it is being shared with. I'd guess this is why Ra seemed to dissuade Don from the "unimportant" details - not because they can't also be seeds for seeking of the eternal, but because of the potential effect on those who might receive the information from the contact. Of course it's natural that if the eternal is explicitly sought in the questioning, it is easier to keep it in focus for the material as a whole. (It also seems natural that a genuine seeking of the eternal would probably display as explicit in the questioning.)

    This is kind of considering the specific type of seeking/sharing that is channeling, in which information is received and shared (and hopefully integrated somewhere along the way). But I think it's a fruitful line of thinking to consider - that our focus, interpretation, and sharing can mean one thing to us, yet mean something entirely different to another. How we choose to share the fruit of our seeking can't get lost in the shadow of the intention of our seeking.
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    Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-21-2021, 03:26 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Diana - 01-21-2021, 01:00 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Patrick - 01-21-2021, 01:05 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Minyatur - 01-21-2021, 02:00 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-21-2021, 03:21 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Patrick - 01-21-2021, 03:28 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-21-2021, 03:34 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by flofrog - 01-21-2021, 06:34 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by KaliSouth - 01-22-2021, 03:00 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Raukura Waihaha - 01-22-2021, 09:19 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Louisabell - 01-22-2021, 10:34 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by flofrog - 01-22-2021, 02:34 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by meadow-foreigner - 01-22-2021, 12:04 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-22-2021, 11:19 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Bring4th_Austin - 01-24-2021, 10:18 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-24-2021, 12:28 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Raukura Waihaha - 01-24-2021, 09:37 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-25-2021, 01:18 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-25-2021, 01:37 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-25-2021, 03:22 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-25-2021, 06:31 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by hounsic - 01-25-2021, 10:55 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Louisabell - 01-25-2021, 11:31 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Diana - 01-25-2021, 11:58 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-25-2021, 12:11 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Louisabell - 01-27-2021, 05:24 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Patrick - 01-25-2021, 01:17 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Diana - 01-25-2021, 02:16 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-26-2021, 01:53 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-26-2021, 02:16 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by meadow-foreigner - 01-26-2021, 04:43 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Louisabell - 01-27-2021, 06:25 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-27-2021, 10:54 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-27-2021, 01:44 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-27-2021, 04:00 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Minyatur - 01-25-2021, 02:43 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Asolsutsesvyl - 01-28-2021, 05:38 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-28-2021, 12:32 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by sillypumpkins - 01-25-2021, 01:31 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-25-2021, 02:02 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Bring4th_Austin - 01-25-2021, 02:56 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-25-2021, 03:06 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-25-2021, 04:59 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-25-2021, 05:52 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-26-2021, 03:22 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Patrick - 01-25-2021, 04:00 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-25-2021, 04:08 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Aion - 01-26-2021, 04:42 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Raukura Waihaha - 01-26-2021, 05:28 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-29-2021, 12:40 AM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by flofrog - 01-29-2021, 10:32 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-30-2021, 04:26 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by unity100 - 01-30-2021, 05:42 PM
    RE: Transient, Sustained and Eternal - by Sacred Fool - 01-30-2021, 05:59 PM

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