11-30-2020, 11:57 AM
You guys are amazing! Thank you for all the words of advice, it warms my heart
@Glow - yes, it gives me whiplash! That is, people putting their own valuations on to me as though we share the same values. It's something I've struggled with, especially with my mother as well.
The thing is, I DO want to make music in a more structured way with my brother, it's just that I've always gotten the sense that my brother has such a vision for how things ought to work between us, that it really just turns me off totally. We actually talked the other day, and did our best (lol, still working on that) to express what each of us is wanting creatively within our partnership. I expressed to him that I really would like more freedom to play with ideas between the two of us, because I am getting fatigued from just jamming all the time and never really working on ideas that we can talk about. He expressed to me that he wants that too. So we are going to be more open with each other when the other has an idea and brings it to the other. We've still got some communication things to work out, but..... I'm glad we sort of got that out in the open.
A lot of the negativity surrounding the whole situation does seem to be coming from communication blocks.
Also, Glow, I love what you have to say about using different words to frame the catalyst. I've always found that so so important, and it's definitely something I am going to keep in mind especially in this situation
@Aion - Lol, no I don't think it would be "too much" effort. I think it's exactly what I'm craving, as a matter of fact! I'm so tired of the same old jamming, I love it and I want to continue doing it, but I think my creative mind is really craving something more between me and my brother. I tend to be wrapped up in my own music when I'm making it because I loooooooove playing around with like melodies and samples and everything surrounding music, even the recording process. I love the freedom. And that seems to be what I've been missing with my brother and I's current configuration.
And yes, I love krautrock and am familiar with all those bands. You're definitely on to something, and it's something that we have also discussed as well (throwing together all our fav jams into an album.) I appreciate you pointing that out
Do you mean, like just experiencing music together, listening to a record and that kinda thing? We both love all the same things in music, though I do tend towards more poppy stuff while my brother is really into like noise/textured music and stuff. But there is a blend there, I still love ambient, textured, sort of stuff and implement that in my music, and my brother still loves pop music and puts that into his music some too. We are pretty compatible musically in that way.
My brother made a comment the other day that lately he's always felt that something was missing from his solo work and that he feels that what's missing is me and my sense of music. I don't really feel the same way per say about my music, but I see what he is saying. Our sensibilities blend together very well in my opinion. I think a lot of the troubles we find ourselves in is a result of a long-standing communication block between us. Not only communication between each other, but with ourselves too. Sort of like what you mentioned, not knowing what direction to go in.
And for sure, especially in the USA there is such a work-or-die attitude which kills people.... literally haha. It is important to rest and be leisurely sometimes.
@Diana - Yes, to your last point, that is exactly what I have been missing. A configuration between us that doesn't stifle each other's creativity. Like an open, free sort of process between us. The lack of that space between us, I think, has been a big part of why I am so tired of doing what we've been doing, and why I tend to work more so on my solo work.
With that being said, I also just love working on music by myself.
@Flo - Thank you flo
I have definitely found that having a disciplined schedule is an efficient way for me to work. Especially setting a timer for say.... 30 min, and then writing for that whole time. It's something I've always had a hard time harnessing (self-discipline), but ultimately time and time again has proven to be the most effective way for me to work (go figure, lol!)
Love you all.... and thank you
@Glow - yes, it gives me whiplash! That is, people putting their own valuations on to me as though we share the same values. It's something I've struggled with, especially with my mother as well.
The thing is, I DO want to make music in a more structured way with my brother, it's just that I've always gotten the sense that my brother has such a vision for how things ought to work between us, that it really just turns me off totally. We actually talked the other day, and did our best (lol, still working on that) to express what each of us is wanting creatively within our partnership. I expressed to him that I really would like more freedom to play with ideas between the two of us, because I am getting fatigued from just jamming all the time and never really working on ideas that we can talk about. He expressed to me that he wants that too. So we are going to be more open with each other when the other has an idea and brings it to the other. We've still got some communication things to work out, but..... I'm glad we sort of got that out in the open.
A lot of the negativity surrounding the whole situation does seem to be coming from communication blocks.
Also, Glow, I love what you have to say about using different words to frame the catalyst. I've always found that so so important, and it's definitely something I am going to keep in mind especially in this situation
@Aion - Lol, no I don't think it would be "too much" effort. I think it's exactly what I'm craving, as a matter of fact! I'm so tired of the same old jamming, I love it and I want to continue doing it, but I think my creative mind is really craving something more between me and my brother. I tend to be wrapped up in my own music when I'm making it because I loooooooove playing around with like melodies and samples and everything surrounding music, even the recording process. I love the freedom. And that seems to be what I've been missing with my brother and I's current configuration.
And yes, I love krautrock and am familiar with all those bands. You're definitely on to something, and it's something that we have also discussed as well (throwing together all our fav jams into an album.) I appreciate you pointing that out
Quote:Another question though, which may be worth considering, you said you like making music alone and you like jamming with your brother, but do you enjoy music together when you aren't just jamming or do you have a lot of different opinions?
Do you mean, like just experiencing music together, listening to a record and that kinda thing? We both love all the same things in music, though I do tend towards more poppy stuff while my brother is really into like noise/textured music and stuff. But there is a blend there, I still love ambient, textured, sort of stuff and implement that in my music, and my brother still loves pop music and puts that into his music some too. We are pretty compatible musically in that way.
My brother made a comment the other day that lately he's always felt that something was missing from his solo work and that he feels that what's missing is me and my sense of music. I don't really feel the same way per say about my music, but I see what he is saying. Our sensibilities blend together very well in my opinion. I think a lot of the troubles we find ourselves in is a result of a long-standing communication block between us. Not only communication between each other, but with ourselves too. Sort of like what you mentioned, not knowing what direction to go in.
And for sure, especially in the USA there is such a work-or-die attitude which kills people.... literally haha. It is important to rest and be leisurely sometimes.
@Diana - Yes, to your last point, that is exactly what I have been missing. A configuration between us that doesn't stifle each other's creativity. Like an open, free sort of process between us. The lack of that space between us, I think, has been a big part of why I am so tired of doing what we've been doing, and why I tend to work more so on my solo work.
With that being said, I also just love working on music by myself.
@Flo - Thank you flo
I have definitely found that having a disciplined schedule is an efficient way for me to work. Especially setting a timer for say.... 30 min, and then writing for that whole time. It's something I've always had a hard time harnessing (self-discipline), but ultimately time and time again has proven to be the most effective way for me to work (go figure, lol!)Love you all.... and thank you
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