[split] Mystery Schools and Initiation

[Sacred Fool]

Insofar as the content goes, the Ra Material does fall into line in some ways with the Mystery School tradition, but the presentational structure is much different.  The Mystery Schools were called such because instructors withheld much of their information from the general public so as to use it in novel ways as part of their initiations; whereas, so far as we know, L/L Research does not operate that way.  All the available information is made freely available and the reader is on her own as to what to make of it.

This is a crucial misunderstanding!

One aspect of „Mystery schools“ withholding information is that there exist quite a few powerful techniques that can be harmful for the unprepared and can also be harmful when not done correctly.

Well, I would say the misunderstanding is on your part, other-self, and that you are overreacting.  My statement is fair enough as it stands in that Ra and the Mystery Schools present their information differently--very differently, in fact.  It's making a simple point and not trying to comprehensively define "initiation."  But we can move there, if you wish.  I, too, find it an important topic.

„Spiritual information“ cannot be conveyed through words, and initiation does not happen on an intellectual level.
Initiation is not that you get a PDf with additional imformation that has been kept secret so far.
Initiation is a transmission of gnosis if you forgive my poor choice of words.

Agreed.

An „initiation“ as I experienced it and as it is intended to be in those circles is a very powerful experience, an experience definetely is beyond your former frame of reference, it is an experience that changes the way you view and approach the subject in question completely.

I'm not aware of what you experienced, but I agree the initiation experience, as I would describe it, involves transformational energy from beyond your frame of reference catalyzing a process which expands that frame of reference.  One could call it, in some sense, a growth spurt.  That is, a growth in conscious awareness.

Where we do not seem to agree is that I perceive this as sometimes happening slowly and sometimes entirely outside of a formally structured context.  This is because, in either case, the transformation occurs in response, not to formality, but to one's innate yearning for transformation.  The advantage of the formality is that, for many of us, this can help focalize our desire to seek, our desire to serve.


Ra offers an example in reference to Don Elkins.

106.12 Questioner: I’m going to come back to a couple of points here, but I have to get in a question here about myself. It’d seem to be critical at this point. Can Ra tell me what is physically wrong with me, and what’s causing it, and what I could do to alleviate it?

Ra: I am Ra. The questioner is one also in the midst of further initiation. During this space/time the possibility for mental/emotional distortion approaching that which causes the entity to become dysfunctional is markèd. Further, the yellow-ray, chemical vehicle of the questioner is aging and has more difficulty in the absorption of needed minerals such as iron and other substances such as papain, potassium, and calcium.

At the same time the body of yellow ray begins to have more difficulty eliminating trace elements such as aluminum. The energizing effect has occurred in the colon of the questioner and the distortions in that area are increasingly substantial. Lastly, there is a small area of infection in the mouth of the questioner which needs attention.

My interpretation of this is that Mr. Elkins was undergoing one big-ass spiritual growth spurt during the time of the Ra Contact, and that this could rightly be called an initiation, despite the lack of any formal iniatory structure.

Who's to say that Vasilisa's innate yearning for transformation was not focalized and responded to when she first read the Ra Material?  Formal structure is not the primary ingredient for spiritual transformation, is it?  Perhaps there's more Mystery to it than you may believe?