09-09-2020, 10:59 AM
(09-07-2020, 04:08 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Outside of evil, a lot in this thread is about suffering, but it is not like humans created suffering nor did the veil put it in place. Suffering is its own part of nature, remove all of humanity and 3D experience from Earth and you will still have animals that hunt other animals, hurt meaninglessly other animals, have accidents and became stranded to die alone, perhaps of a fever or lack of food. Humans are a whole lot in the image of the nature from which they come, simply wielding a different level of power and without natural predators to balance them out on the short term. Then again, the entire idea of 3D is to allow a place for the Creator to have the honor/duty to learn as this role within such a planet, to make its mistakes and grow through them in the eternal discovery of the Creator as the Creator.
*sigh*
This bypasses any responsibility or accountability on the part of humans. Of course humans have created certain kinds of suffering. If they didn't, who did? Some other entity? Or maybe it just popped out of nowhere.
Yes, nature is cruel, or more accurately, neutral. Nature is just the system, as the veil is our system. Yes animals may suffer in the ways you have mentioned, but how does that compare to the intentional suffering animals are put through in laboratories when they are experimented on? Are not humans responsible for that suffering?
Can we change nature? Unlikely. Can we change humanity's cruelty to other life forms through awareness and evolution of consciousness? Yes (I certainly hope so).