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    08-22-2020, 05:12 PM
    (08-22-2020, 01:31 PM)Jade Wrote:
    (08-22-2020, 10:28 AM)curio_city Wrote: I see a lot of reference in your post to "feeling safe." It reminds me of Cancel Culture and the idea of "safe zones" on campuses that are really just freedom from challenge so long as members serve the reigning ideology. The concept of feeling safe is very different than actually being safe, and both are very different than being prepared. I do not feel an obligation to adhere to others' ideas of what makes them safe more than my own ideas of how best to prepare others. In fact, it is others' ideas of and drives toward perceived safety that can so often lead them astray.

    Do you understand the concept of a social memory complex? The concept of not harming others? Compassion? Because all of these things go into making others "feel safe". If you act upon your own will to the detriment of others' peace of mind or feelings of safety, you aren't contributing to the foundation of 4th density energies. In fact, I think you are confused because you are putting such a high value on your own safety that you deny changing your behavior for others. It is the concept of "sacrifice" for the harmony of the group that is paramount to 4th density, to feeling and expressing compassion.

    It's so funny how people who have certain "ideologies" always make concepts *about* ideology by using buzzwords like "safe spaces" because I promoted the idea of taking care of each other in a compassionate way. I really never understood what was wrong about creating spaces where people couldn't use toxic or abusive language against others. You actually didn't address anything I said but went off on a tangent about safe spaces. I was addressing the issue that people often claim that wearing masks is a threat to their own safety, i.e. their body autonomy and freedom to feel "healthy". In your OP you literally said wearing a mask is a weapon. It's interesting how quickly people are to project their own insecurities upon others. Anti-maskers fear the government, pro-maskers fear the potential of debilitating disease. It's all fear-based, and acting as if you are above it is hypocritical as you have clearly stated your motivations.

    Jade, I really appreciate the opportunities you're presenting me with. I'm grateful to have such deep conversations with anyone; though, my interlocutors and I may not always be willing to travel the same paths. I may not follow you into the more detailed aspects of your argument, instead giving favor to the more general concepts that may be developed to characterize thinking patterns. I used the phrase "safe spaces" because it seemed relevant to some of your thinking patterns, and based on the opinion you stated of "safe spaces" it appears I was correct.

    In my original post, I do no more than present a lens for use in examination of current circumstances. Use it, or don't. I do not state that wearing masks is, without a doubt, weaponry. I do not even state whether or not I wear masks; it now seems pertinent to mention that I do typically wear masks where they are required. I do this because I balance what I want for others with the likelihood of its occurrence given my actions; when it comes to mask-wearing, I have not decided that the likelihood of distortions toward fear and alienation in others should be outweighed by other considerations. I certainly would not describe any of my positions as "anti" anything, nor would I intentionally base any course on fear. The best ways to love may not be obvious, and the topic deserves some thinking and openness.

    In my original post, I was inviting readers to consider another perspective and to discern for themselves what the best path forward might be. This was presented here based on my belief that the viewpoint could be useful to those seeking more and better ways to serve others. I hope those thinking on this find the experiences that will help them to discern the best paths forward for their polarities -- as well as the realizations that the paths forward they find illustrate their polarities.
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    My take on masks. - by curio_city - 08-14-2020, 12:42 PM
    RE: My take on masks. - by sillypumpkins - 08-14-2020, 02:23 PM
    RE: My take on masks. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2020, 03:47 PM
    RE: My take on masks. - by curio_city - 08-14-2020, 04:23 PM
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    RE: My take on masks. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2020, 05:50 PM
    RE: My take on masks. - by curio_city - 08-14-2020, 06:17 PM
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    RE: My take on masks. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2020, 11:33 PM
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