06-24-2020, 08:42 AM
(06-24-2020, 08:25 AM)Navaratna Wrote: Maybe you quoted that before I edited it to show that I'm talking about -all- of those people together that own horses or dogs/pets of all varieties. Think of how many billions they have altogether and what could be done with that wealth while people starve.
Thats not as applicable as you think in reality.
Indeed, an argument can be made that while there are 40 million hungry in rich countries like US, people can help people eat food with part of that money. And they must.
But it is also true that this is a systemic situation - if people set aside more money for charity to buy more food to distribute it to those in need, the private businesses which create that food will just ramp up prices to take advantage of the demand. Just as they dump/destroy food when the demand is low to protect food prices - instead of distributing it to those who need, or even selling that food for even lower prices.
Systemic sociopathy.
Additionally those pets you talk about are also entities, a decent number of them would be approximating 3d. If you will remember, Gandalf qualified for 3d, and yet he was staying with LL group because of love.
So telling those people to not to spend their own pets is like telling them not to spend money on their family. Without even mentioning that a decent percentage of those pets would already be 3d spirits.
Basically you are saying 'just stop feeding those 3d entities, feed these other 3d entities instead'.
Quote:I haven't given a lot of thought to Christians intentionally bringing about the apocalypse because Christian evangelicals aren't military generals and the Christian population in the U.S. is seriously waning. Young people aren't flocking to churches in American cities at all...at all. No. I wonder if you're from the U.S. if you think that these scenarios really have a shot at unfolding.
The driving force behind the segment that supports Trump is evangelicals. They are basically dictating US policy right now. Pompeo himself, the actual Sect. of State, is one, who also shares that delirious end of world belief.
It's not the exact same thing as Pizza Hut but think of all the employees of Pizza Hut too. Oh no, they're all polluting and enslaving people because their machinery is in large part possibly manufactured overseas. The employees all know they are a part of the corporate machine. Looking at people and being too hung up on how they aren't perfect is such a waste of mental energy. You'll never find peace in that.
I haven't given a lot of thought to Christians intentionally bringing about the apocalypse because Christian evangelicals aren't military generals and the Christian population in the U.S. is seriously waning. Young people aren't flocking to churches in American cities at all...at all. No. I wonder if you're from the U.S. if you think that these scenarios really have a shot at unfolding.
Yeah there are plenty of recruits the military openly accepts who openly believe they're Jesus' white Christian warriors from places like North Carolina, and Iraq shows you how bad it was at one point but if something like that was going to happen with Israel I think it would have already happened. I really have doubts that the military generals and a bunch of evangelicals are so cozy with each other that they'd ever do something like that as a part of some apocalypse game. Separation of church and state is pretty tough.
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(06-24-2020, 08:33 AM)Spaced Wrote: I think you'll find that all the things you mentioned happened in the 60s as well. The rioting, the fires, the looting, the upsurge in KKK / white supremacist sentiment. None of that takes away from the fact that direct action by the people on the streets was able to affect positive social change. The same is happening now because the what was accomplished then then was not enough.
Indeed, what's happening is exactly the same with what happened during American Civil Rights movement. And it is further amazing that just a few weeks' of rioting and looting have accomplished what 20-30 years of peaceful protesting and organized activism could not achieve.
Basically, the system does not give a zit about people or peaceful protests. But the moment private property is threatened, it starts listening.
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