(06-23-2020, 07:27 AM)Dtris Wrote: So is it the Trump attendees you believe are causing the disharmony or the protesters?
Oklahoma has had over 20 earthquakes this year over 3.0 which is down from the hundreds a year they had in 2017-2018. Events like this caused by disharmony tend to be a lagging indicator. The earthquakes are almost entirely caused by underground wastewater disposal.
For there to be a physical effect, a susceptibility to that effect must be present in the region already. Tens of thousands of white supremacists screaming red with anger could not cause a quake in Himalayas, for example. It is natural that this would happen in a region with more propensity.
Second, space/time follows time/space. Its not the other way around. So, before the rally physically happened, its time/space counterpart was already happening and its impact already was there for some time after the rally. All this, before the fact that all kinds of energies have flowed to the region due to the attention that started from weeks earlier.
Quote:If you are implying that the cause of the disharmony is a large group of Trump supporters getting together then I suggest you rethink your own biases or even attend a rally yourself before judging entire groups of people.
Attending a physical rally is not needed to see the hate and discrimination in a group's talking points and views. Trump supporters, or American ultra conservatives, are not the first social group on the planet who have such hate based thoughts and feelings. But, indeed, they are one of the most blatant.
Its amazing that people can still think that a group who rails against everybody, everything, everyone, a group which is easily induced to hate and treat this or that internal or external group as enemies, are not hate based or negative.
(06-24-2020, 12:08 AM)StormShadow Wrote: If I were to go looking for disharmony in our recent history, I think that I would instead look for, oh I don’t know, murder, beatings, looting, riots, armed fanatics setting up autonomous fiefdoms and segregating each other based on race, that sort of thing. But I haven’t checked the newspapers lately so I couldn’t tell you who has been doing the lion’s share of that recently; maybe someone else can jump in and tell us.
If the society leaves people to starve in the middle of an economic crisis based on 'free market' ideals - like how US did - people wont sit and watch their family and children starve to protect corporate property rights. They will make sure their children get food. White, black, latino - whichever segment they may be from, as we have seen from videos of looting.
And some parts of your statements does not even make sense - 'murder'? Who are the anarchists, protesters or blacks killing? They are the ones being killed. Amazingly, the killers are upset that they are being criticized, and they are objecting like 5 year old sociopathic children to the criticism they receive. Some even resign in protest.
(06-24-2020, 04:31 AM)Navaratna Wrote: Donald Thump is so easy to diss but I myself look at it like he is nobody to me personally. To see people so obsessed with him on both aisles just reminds me of a speech I remember in Sahaja Yoga where it's stated that being a left or right winger means you aren't looking at the middle path which is finding people who practice your spirituality so your community of peace and truth-seekers grows in strength. This is what L/L Research in a sense says with a lot of the Q'uo readings.
There is no such 'middle path' as advertised in modern political spectrum. That middle path, is actually the center-right path. Aka the neoliberal path. The path which US has followed since 1990s, bringing its entire society to this point. Where people are hungry, unemployed as stock market inflates. With that path only being enabled on the backs of white supremacist segments, whose thinly veiled racism just has exploded in the past few years, now manifesting without any pretense. One thing that is going on for the (now) ultra right in US, is that they just want to go back to late 19th century capitalism coupled with medieval religious zealotry without any pretense. They are honest, at least.
Spiritually, there is no middle path starting from late 3rd. There is the positive and there is the negative. This does not change until early-mid 6th density, where it returns to positive path.
(06-24-2020, 05:22 AM)Black Dragon Wrote: I'm not into politics like when I was fresh out of high school, and I agree that a lot on the left, especially the very far left, are totally authoritarian. The far left and far right are more similar to one another than either is to the middle.
Far left is obligatory anarchists per political science. Marxist-Leninist (aka Stalinist) formats are war-time, extraordinary formats. Incidentally, every single country on the planet - including those countries which claim to be leaders of freedom and democracy - have laws and rules which allow them to effect the exact same authoritarian system as Marxist-Leninism if the existence of their society is threatened. They are called war-time powers, extraordinary powers, national security laws and the like. A New York court just suspended habeas corpus a few weeks ago, for example. Just like that.
Quote:Let's remember, before they became a bunch of hypocritical cry-bullies who'd rather bash white kids for wearing "Indian" costumes on Halloween than actually support Native Americans against oil companies encroaching on their land... that the "left" was responsible for passing things like the clean air and water act, without which we'd be way more f***** than we are now environmentally and from a health standpoint.
Progressivism is not left. Left is not progressivism. They may easily exist in the same political grouping without conflict. But they are not the same. Left/right divide is mainly economical.
Throwing a tantrum over perceived potential offenses towards a group is much better than the lack of it.
Ra and other 6d groups built pyramids and other buildings by rock which wanted to be shaped, taking into account the desires of the rock being shaped. They did not take random rocks from wherever and just built those buildings. They chose the rocks which wanted to be shaped, and the shaping was done by asking the rock to shape. Not by shaping them themselves.
The end of positive path is that delicate and considerate towards the sentiments/desires of all things, and you think some people being sensitive about a group's feelings is something too much?
Its hard to understand what do some of you think positive path is...