05-29-2020, 03:14 PM
Hi again, long and scattered answers are fine, not a problem !
You made some very interesting points and here's a chance to clarify myself. Alright, let's start.
As for the Leo content, it might be a bit confusing for non-French speakers since the translation doesn't touch every bit of their website and is an on-going process. I'll try to add some clarifications as we go.
It is only more recently (from 2016) that "Reseau Leo" was formed and it is the continuation of that work, an even more collaborative one, similar to the C's.
I didn't want to mention it, but yeah, you were on point about that "window" bit. Here's the extract from Réseau Leo about it, which itself contains an extract from "The Wave" of Laura. K-J, book nb 4, chapter IV.
There's a line that reads as: ".. The next stop for the Wave is, according to the C's, the Leo (Lion) constellation." (translated from French, I don't have the Englsih source material for that one)
It seems that "the Wave" (cosmic energy) is used by different kind of forces (STO obviously...but adding STS would'nt be too far off !) to communicate more easily with our plan, as an anwser to the Calling.
As it moves through time/space different "Consciouness Centers" (CC) are able to take the relay on the duty of answering the "Call".
(And you were more accurate than me on the term "soul family": it's definitely larger than the way I intended !)
We can think of Pleaidians, Ra, Cassiopeans and others... and now Leo. That is one of the reasons why I speak of them as the most-up-to-date.
As we go along with that "Wave", I think it's pretty ok to say the informations that come from these different CC tend to be more and more accurate (you also have to factor in the channeler and other influences, but you got the idea).
I'm not saying there is some kind of hierarchy among STO sources, not at all. Let's say it could be compared to children that come with more proficiency towards spirit because circumstances allow it. It's easier for them now that it was for us then.
Thus the idea of the continuation of the work through different groups.
Now about the Star Wars stuff, you got a point. It was easier to mention already existing material, the analogy is somewhat working. It was good enough for me I guess.
And thanks for the clarification about the forum titles thing, I didn't know that and it is indeed quite a funny thing now that you mentionned it^^
Anyway, this bring us once again to the STS / STO part, and why sometimes I'm still a bit confused, or perplexed, about the term "Positive" from other places.
If I'm not mistaken, the "STS Positive" and "STS Negative" part was not really present from earlier channeling, like the Pleaidians for example. (This concept might have bleed through in some manner since, I just don't know them.)
I think it's easier to grasp with the example of New-Age like movement: many described it as "Positive". Well, sure it is. However, is it really STO ?
Laura's work for example warned us plenty about the "Co-intel" operatives and such, how the Predatory system works not only in 3D, but also from higher realm. I think we got the multi-dimensionnal thing of STS covered since a long time, and from different sources (at least: Ra, C's, Leo from the ones I know better.)
So rest assure, the definition of Ra's material STS remains 100% valid, anywhere.
In the previous example a guru would be comparable to the "master who strive to be number one in a hierarchy" so-to-speak; while the followers of the movement would be "slavish helpers who strive to be number two"".
Again, this is just an example and somewhat narrow.
The C's work and the later Leo's deferenciation about the two sides of STS (+/-) is possibly what was needed in order to bring the most percentage of STO polarization (within self, to begin with).
Hence the immense focus from the Leo to detect the tinniest bit of STS tendency, found in our everyday life. I can tell, that is not easy. It's the hardest and most uncomfortable of all actually.
"What makes you think that ? Why do you do this, do that ? Are these YOUR words ?? Your feelings, really ?"
That might sound paranoid but it's just a matter of practice, I guess. They don't live a paranoid life at all, just see their videos. They're "normal", just like common folk, it's just that they practice that "STS sniffing" (lol) in communal manner (very much like a tribe). It's ultimately an exercice on the self, boosted by the mirror of each other.
The more you master this exercice, the more the STS influence can be turned beneficial, less of an "attack" and more of a lesson on yourself and other parts of you that you didn't expect to exist.
An other thing that didn't really pass the test of others sources are the different species appearing in the Girku Chronicles of A. Parks. There's also a huge deal of a work coming from the Leo with the bestiary of eons ago, in relationship with the "influences" and certain "mind patterns" I spoke of earlier.
They range from very negative STS, to the more difficult to spot STS+, and sometimes STO.
I guess this will not speak to everyone since it's more dependant on the "genetics". We all carry differents things and I can totally understand that it doesn't resonate.
About the walk-in situation, I think I read that one such a long time ago that I needed a reminder. It's really telling by itself.
As for the rest of your comments and details, I think we're more or less on the same line (exception of Montalk, I don't really know what to think of him, and it's new to me). I don't have much to add.
In any case, I greatly appreciate the civil discussion being taken, even if we diverge on some points !
You made some very interesting points and here's a chance to clarify myself. Alright, let's start.
Quote:It would make more sense as an inner response to what the line of text brings the focus towards, i.e. the organization, than the text itself. I think such signals can be sent from oneself if something is known on another level.Yes, you're right here. Thanks for the reminder as I tend to forget this kind of things. I was probably wrong somewhere. I'll need to re-evaluate if it still has any significance.
As for the Leo content, it might be a bit confusing for non-French speakers since the translation doesn't touch every bit of their website and is an on-going process. I'll try to add some clarifications as we go.
Quote:But it is interesting that the Leo channeling began in early 2011. (...)Regarding the timeframe of their "channeling", it indeed began a while back, more or less a decade ago. At that time, it mainly came from a couple, under the name "Dialogue with my Angel".
It is only more recently (from 2016) that "Reseau Leo" was formed and it is the continuation of that work, an even more collaborative one, similar to the C's.
I didn't want to mention it, but yeah, you were on point about that "window" bit. Here's the extract from Réseau Leo about it, which itself contains an extract from "The Wave" of Laura. K-J, book nb 4, chapter IV.
There's a line that reads as: ".. The next stop for the Wave is, according to the C's, the Leo (Lion) constellation." (translated from French, I don't have the Englsih source material for that one)
It seems that "the Wave" (cosmic energy) is used by different kind of forces (STO obviously...but adding STS would'nt be too far off !) to communicate more easily with our plan, as an anwser to the Calling.
As it moves through time/space different "Consciouness Centers" (CC) are able to take the relay on the duty of answering the "Call".
(And you were more accurate than me on the term "soul family": it's definitely larger than the way I intended !)
We can think of Pleaidians, Ra, Cassiopeans and others... and now Leo. That is one of the reasons why I speak of them as the most-up-to-date.
As we go along with that "Wave", I think it's pretty ok to say the informations that come from these different CC tend to be more and more accurate (you also have to factor in the channeler and other influences, but you got the idea).
I'm not saying there is some kind of hierarchy among STO sources, not at all. Let's say it could be compared to children that come with more proficiency towards spirit because circumstances allow it. It's easier for them now that it was for us then.
Thus the idea of the continuation of the work through different groups.
Now about the Star Wars stuff, you got a point. It was easier to mention already existing material, the analogy is somewhat working. It was good enough for me I guess.
And thanks for the clarification about the forum titles thing, I didn't know that and it is indeed quite a funny thing now that you mentionned it^^
Anyway, this bring us once again to the STS / STO part, and why sometimes I'm still a bit confused, or perplexed, about the term "Positive" from other places.
If I'm not mistaken, the "STS Positive" and "STS Negative" part was not really present from earlier channeling, like the Pleaidians for example. (This concept might have bleed through in some manner since, I just don't know them.)
I think it's easier to grasp with the example of New-Age like movement: many described it as "Positive". Well, sure it is. However, is it really STO ?
Laura's work for example warned us plenty about the "Co-intel" operatives and such, how the Predatory system works not only in 3D, but also from higher realm. I think we got the multi-dimensionnal thing of STS covered since a long time, and from different sources (at least: Ra, C's, Leo from the ones I know better.)
So rest assure, the definition of Ra's material STS remains 100% valid, anywhere.
In the previous example a guru would be comparable to the "master who strive to be number one in a hierarchy" so-to-speak; while the followers of the movement would be "slavish helpers who strive to be number two"".
Again, this is just an example and somewhat narrow.
The C's work and the later Leo's deferenciation about the two sides of STS (+/-) is possibly what was needed in order to bring the most percentage of STO polarization (within self, to begin with).
Hence the immense focus from the Leo to detect the tinniest bit of STS tendency, found in our everyday life. I can tell, that is not easy. It's the hardest and most uncomfortable of all actually.
"What makes you think that ? Why do you do this, do that ? Are these YOUR words ?? Your feelings, really ?"
That might sound paranoid but it's just a matter of practice, I guess. They don't live a paranoid life at all, just see their videos. They're "normal", just like common folk, it's just that they practice that "STS sniffing" (lol) in communal manner (very much like a tribe). It's ultimately an exercice on the self, boosted by the mirror of each other.
The more you master this exercice, the more the STS influence can be turned beneficial, less of an "attack" and more of a lesson on yourself and other parts of you that you didn't expect to exist.
An other thing that didn't really pass the test of others sources are the different species appearing in the Girku Chronicles of A. Parks. There's also a huge deal of a work coming from the Leo with the bestiary of eons ago, in relationship with the "influences" and certain "mind patterns" I spoke of earlier.
They range from very negative STS, to the more difficult to spot STS+, and sometimes STO.
I guess this will not speak to everyone since it's more dependant on the "genetics". We all carry differents things and I can totally understand that it doesn't resonate.
About the walk-in situation, I think I read that one such a long time ago that I needed a reminder. It's really telling by itself.
As for the rest of your comments and details, I think we're more or less on the same line (exception of Montalk, I don't really know what to think of him, and it's new to me). I don't have much to add.
In any case, I greatly appreciate the civil discussion being taken, even if we diverge on some points !