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    Thread: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice?


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    05-16-2019, 05:34 PM
    (05-16-2019, 04:33 PM)Cyan Wrote: No, im not interested in blocking the heart, to me my STS seems more higher density and involves the heart, i think the more appropriate action would be to guard the heart, perhaps along the lines of spacemarine priest saying that "A open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded." instead of actively seeking to refuse it. The way I see it I feel more inclination towards a political action than spiritual action and when you think of humanity in the 4th density positive what would be serve but other planets, to me this seems folly and the best service would be to our own memory complex and to add contact with others to it slowly over time instead of seeking to serve other complexes, it seems like such service to others would be much more difficult than service to self as it would entail a completely different level of understanding of the needs of others than would be naturally forthcoming for understanding of the needs of selves, the service to others would always entail saying that their desires to serve themselves are "misguided" and we must seek to serve their "higher self" which wants what we know it wants and not what the person wants, that to me seems highly evil and not just STS.

    I think it would be more natural to run a service to self oriented 4th density society that slowly builds itself rather than one of the STOs that would be hard pressed to be of true service, though this seems more like the attitude of a 5th density STO than an STS but somehow I feel a call to the STS side, perhaps my services could be better used there. Either way, if I do end up polarizing self and some of you land in the same density I think we could help each other quite well.

    I think we have very different conceptions of what STO and STS entail. In my understanding of the Ra material, STS is about active manipulation of others for your own gain and it does require blocking and circumventing your heart chakra, until such time as you flip polarities and then depolarize in Sixth Density.

    Note that very very few people are able to graduate to 4D negative because of how much one has to actively work on being self oriented. Ra gave us the examples of Genghis Khan, Rasputin, and a third I’m forgetting. I know those aren’t all the earthlings who have managed to graduate to 4D negative, but they are few and far between. Ra mentioned that both Hitler and Crowley were underlying positive and got confused, so now are in healing on the astral plane.

    The way you discuss this, I do have to wonder if your underlying orientation is STO. For example, you seem to have a lot of empathy for the rights of others. If this is the case, and you attempt to go STS, you could do a lot of damage to yourself and hold back your soul evolution instead of advancing it. Things to consider.
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    STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-15-2019, 03:49 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by AnthroHeart - 05-15-2019, 04:00 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-15-2019, 04:04 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by speedforce131 - 05-15-2019, 04:07 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Merrick - 05-15-2019, 05:53 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by flofrog - 05-15-2019, 06:07 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-15-2019, 07:04 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Merrick - 05-16-2019, 02:35 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by speedforce131 - 05-15-2019, 07:23 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-15-2019, 07:30 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by speedforce131 - 05-15-2019, 07:44 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by ada - 05-15-2019, 11:05 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by ZW929 - 05-16-2019, 01:11 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Nau7ik - 05-16-2019, 09:39 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by redchartreuse - 05-16-2019, 11:05 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-16-2019, 03:34 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Merrick - 05-16-2019, 04:03 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by redchartreuse - 05-17-2019, 11:49 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by speedforce131 - 05-17-2019, 02:29 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-16-2019, 04:33 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Merrick - 05-16-2019, 05:34 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by kristina - 05-21-2019, 03:47 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Nau7ik - 05-22-2019, 09:07 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by kristina - 05-23-2019, 01:19 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by speedforce131 - 05-16-2019, 05:10 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-16-2019, 05:12 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by AnthroHeart - 05-16-2019, 05:59 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-16-2019, 05:59 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by AnthroHeart - 05-16-2019, 06:00 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-17-2019, 11:54 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Cyan - 05-21-2019, 04:55 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by kristina - 05-22-2019, 08:43 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by Merrick - 05-23-2019, 02:24 AM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by David_1 - 05-21-2019, 05:17 PM
    RE: STO is automatic, STS requires the choice? - by TheJoan - 05-21-2019, 05:18 PM

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