(12-28-2010, 06:06 AM)unity100 Wrote: this 'linear thinking' concept baffles me. what is linear thinking ?yes.
cause<->effect relationships ?
(12-28-2010, 06:06 AM)unity100 Wrote: so, in higher densities, these go away because the existence is not 'linear' ?In order to have "linear thinking", you have to determine cause-effect relationships. In order to determine cause-effect relationships, you have to evaluate. This evaluation process is filtered through a knowledge base (one's experience) composed of artificial dualities.
"thinking"-directed cognitive evaluation views the linear-emergent qualities of whole to part, while "feeling"-directed cognitive evaluation views the circular-emergent qualities of part to whole. Thinking is "causal' - that is, setting up a chain of events, while Feeling is "acausal" or how the chain may be linked.
Cognitive understanding is obviously developmental.
In developmental psychology, Jean Piaget developed a stage theory that showed the changes in cognitive process and abilities of children. The stages are:
1. Sensorimotor
2. Preoperational
3. Concrete Operational
4. Formal Operational
The evolution of cognition continues to "post-formal" stages...These emerging stages, capable of transcending rational-objective-linear thought, have been identified (by Ken Wilber, et al) as:
5. Vision Logic
6. Psychic
7. Subtle
8. Causal
9. Non dual
Peter Collins has correlated stages of cognitive development with forms of mathematical explanation or interpretation. The result is Holistic mathematics - representing a "subtle synthesis of reason and intuition. It is designed to provide an original and precise framework for the scientific integration of diverse fields of knowledge."
Holistic mathematics is an interpretation both of math and of mind. The aim of Holistic mathematics is to provide a genuine scientific approach, not merely philosophical, and I believe it may offer a significant advantage as far as contextualizing our assumptions in our attempts to explain physical phenomena. Also, in that the identifiable behavior of matter seems to follow from a behavior of mind (matter is experienced - experience is of mind), some new insight into the nature of matter may be found in his model.
In Collins' Twelve Stage Model, more refined distinctions are provided starting at Piaget's first rational stage, "Concrete Operational", which Collins designates as Level 0 (L0).
I like Peter Collin's system as outlined here.
Nick Thomas Wrote:Steiner reported that in a higher state of consciousness a different kind of space is experienced that is polar opposite to our ordinary Euclidean one. Such a consciousness [a] looks in the from the periphery towards an unreachable inwardness in contrast to our normal consciousness [b] which looks out from a centre towards an unreachable outwardness, i.e towards an outer infinity.
Consciousness type [a] corresponds to the psychological faculty of feeling and consciousness [b] is the faculty of thinking.
[a] The perception of time (counterspace) via feelings (view from time to space):
(Some of the following concepts excerpted http://tap3x.net/ENSEMBLE/mpage3c.html) :
Looking from the whole, or "periphery" to the part has been explained as
o an everpresent field, constantly shifting in character and tone, a backdrop against
which objects of our attention are selectively relevated.
o Through feeling we experience the underlying whole against which 'objects' of our
perception (gestalt 'figures') are relevated:
o Everything distinguishable in experience is interconnected, embedded within a
total-whole that penetrates and envelops it.
o The experience-qualities of this total-whole are the feelings and emotions.
o The properties of the circle, the cycle, continuity, wholeness
o Time is inherently "now", not characterized by events
zen consciousness
o Subjective / Inside
o Change seen as an aspect of the whole in relation to the part
[b] The perception of space via thinking (view from space to time):
o the properties of the line, seperateness, discreteness
o Stage or container concept for particles. Larson's "unit".
o Time unfolds as a linear succession (past-to-future) of discrete events
o Euclidean geometry
o Objective / Outside
Aristotle - "the cosmos (or Reality) exists independently of us and our consciousness"
o Change seen as an aspect of the part in relation to the whole
Interestingly, Peter Collins explained that "...it was in a short book by one of his followers Jolande Jacobi that I found mention of the fact that Jung intended his four functions as an explanation, not only of psychological behaviour, but also in some way of the physical nature of space and time." Also, "...In dynamic terms thinking, sensation, feeling and intuition mutually interact with each other (and have no meaning in the absence of each other)." Just like space and time have no meaning apart from each other.
What is interesting is that in 3rd density the objective or spatial component of mind seems to be emphasized at the expense of the temporal component of mind, in a person having thinking-dominant/feeling inferior bias. However, the opposite is also true with the feeling-dominant person, where the subjective or temporal component of mind is emphasized at the expense of the spatial component of mind. Traditionally science, in its need for an objective interpretation, tends to have the former (i.e. thinking-dominant) approach, while mysticism, in its need for a subjective interpretation, is using the latter (feeling-dominant) approach. Apparently, at the "subtle" (Ra's 4th Density) level of experience, thinking and feeling become the same thing - that is both aspects of are equally available to the experiencer (i.e. In 4D there is no genetic or environmental "personality type"-bias, so personality is not defined by psyche-faculty access modes).
The harmony of the thinking and feeling can be thought of as the "nondual" (Ra's 6th density) experience - where apparently differentiation and integration (i.e. as thinking and feeling) are able to exist (in mind) simultaneously. So in nondual, the circular nature of experience is seen to be precisely the same as the linear nature of experience - any distinction (or confusion) posited between the two is using a "lower" interpretative stage.
The 3rd-density objective or spatial component of mind seems to be emphasized at the expense of the temporal component of mind. This contributes to the separating experience (the veil) that the mystics (like Krishnamurti) have transcended to some degree. Non-dual states (of "post trans") are also examples of transcending these "asymmetric default settings".