Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst

[Minyatur]

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I meant I saw that there is no end to pain. Any focus you can have upon pain can only miss most of what it is, looking where you yourself need to be looking at.
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We can only hope that after this cycle is done (this entire octave).  Pain is not part of the design of the next one.
 

Well the Octaves go infinitely on and on, yet I believe everything has its own place and so I don't doubt we move through infinite rest, to then seek greater intensity of experience, to be yet again done with that and move through infinite rest again.

There's probably always only pain in an Octave because the need of it arose, probably always absent by default until it is sought to be known as an experience, because the parameters of experience are not satisfactory to what experiences and so more is sought.

If we removed the potential for pain from this world, then everyone and everything as we know them would be forced to be unlike what they are into something extremely different.