Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst

[Minyatur]

Then Elros, would you say this point of view, personal,  melts at times to a unified universal point of view, let’s say, in moments of meditation, meditative bliss, etc... ?

I think so, but would also say each point of view in what it is should be regarded as with worth and not something to overcome. The veiled point of view here is what allows a vivid experience to be had.

The melting is the effect of a choice and in this I believe things suffer to the extent they require it. Like I said in my first post, I don't believe the Logos creates beings so much as it creates the right nexus for their will to come to manifest, and so everything here is here because this place offers what they need to shape their growth. I think it is much easier to recognize our own pains as having helped us to grow into what we desired, like the Universe is always connected to our will, than it is to do so with others because we see them in what we are not (at least in the moment) distilling as our own personnal experience, hence we feel separate from the cause and effect and attraction.

I don't advocate to partake in creating pain nor entertaining it, more that across pain each being remains sovereign of its own experience., just as will come to cherish and not wish away what has been its experience.

I had felt a resistance to post this quote (saw it a few days ago posted by L/L Research), but I think it attempts to convey the same as I am :

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to being-ness. - Ra