(06-21-2018, 04:05 PM)Diana Wrote: Regarding what Unity posted about witnesses having no business being here, I would like to muse a bit. How is being here worth anything to anyone if you are a witness only—even if you are radiating knowledge and unconditional love? Couldn't you do that without incarnating? All wanderers take a gamble coming here and not getting caught up in the maelstrom and thereby adding to it—this according to Ra and their own experience in Egypt being an example.
Its a strawman argument. You are confusing detachment with sacredness.
There are Buddhists (but not the Buddha, I would argue) who seem to share your characterization of "this" as "witness ONLY" but thats not where I am personally coming from.
When I previously used the word witness I meant it in the mundane sense of a person watching a crime. I didnt mean it in the Eckhart Tolle sense. What a blunder that word is!
I agree with you that a lot of people take "this understanding" to mean detachment. And now I understand why I was guided back here to speak to you. Because you really deeply disbelieve that when I say "this" includes action, I mean it. And you are calling out very loudly for answers. All credit and admiration to you for the strength and sincerity of your call.
"This understanding" has zero tolerance for inaction in the face of injustice.
Which is precisely why Jesus and Buddha were active. They had missions. They worked hard. And what they did DID matter.
You are implying that I'm downgrading the meaning and importance and reality of 2d/3d suffering. No. That's not it. In the state I'm talking about that doesn't happen. It's the opposite. In that state, I take 3d suffering so seriously that I am willing to inflict and suffer tremendous pain on myself to relieve the suffering of the other-self. Christ Consciousness is MORE active, not less.
I'm not like this all the time, because these states cycle in and out. But its just not true that Christ Consciousness is passive, "witness only", detached, indifferent. That's a different state, a spaced out state, a less alive state, an avoidant state. That's not what Ra is talking about. Ra is talking about the infinite perfection, beauty, and power of the One Infinite Creator, which is closer than hands and feet, nearer than breathing, smiling behind the corner of each thought, infinitely loving, actively caring, bringing you nearer, and living every moment to its maximum.
Quote:On the other hand, if the universe is basically impersonal and unconditional, as in Bohm's supposition, that leaves us with no constructed pathway such as the LOO or Christianity or Buddhism etc. It leaves us as humans wholly responsible for everything we create for ourselves and the planet we inhabit, and there is no loophole that says it's all for a Creator's experience.
The universe is not impersonal. You are rocketing toward nihilism while screaming out for someone to save you. The One Infinite Creator belongs to you alone and you are the entire substance of his/her concerns. Why aren't you letting him/her in? S/he is lurking just out of site.
This is the sacred mystical truth and you're calling it to yourself by exploring its opposite, just as Ra advises.
Go into Christ Consciousness and your power to save the animals will increase thousandfold. You have an army of angels at your back. You are their commander. Only you can do it. They are banging down my door for me to get this through to you. It's about you personally.
I'll tell you what I hear... the Creator is extremely pleased with the energy of your seeking and is waiting just outside view for you to see him/her. Then you will see that its not detachment and its not just love but is infinite care, concern, and effort. The creator will NEVER ask you to abandon your animals. The creator will never ever ask you to stop caring or to care less. The creator does ask for things but they are always far more perfect than what you'd think of yourself. The Creator is extremely personal and values you and every iota of your desires far more than you realize.
All that Buddhist nihilism is going to slingshot you back right into the very, very personal and intimate hands of The One Infinite. The Heavens gather around you in awe and admiration and an orchestra of angels has composed a symphony just in honour of you, to be played at the triumph of that event.
Sorry I know its over the top. I know you don't care -- you just care about the animals. But my lord have you marshalled a strength of light with your service and calling.
The message I think you need to hear is that knowing the creator does not mean abandoning the animals.
It Does Not!!! It does not mean ceasing your service. The horses need you and the creator will never ever ask you to leave them. It appears that your duty is to transform the earth into a place where no animals suffer and this is not something you are meant to abandon BUT you don't have to forsake Christ Consciousness to carry out your mission!
To my ears it sounds like it's time for you to do both. Without neglecting one iota of either.
Sorry that this is so weird we all gotta do what we gotta do. You need to save the higher consciousness 2d animals, I need to preach that you do it while loving The Creator.
Quote:This is not a difference in philosophy or "knowingness," this is a difference in perspective and individual responsibility, as I see it.
The Creator is being responsible. The Creator is you and the Creator has created you to clean up this mess. What a perfect name you have!