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    Thread: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst


    Taralie Peterdaughter (Offline)

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    06-17-2018, 03:56 PM
    (05-27-2018, 06:20 AM)Louisabell Wrote: This is a question I have vastly pondered. I like what Byron Katie says about this, "reality is always kinder than the stories we tell about it". I see how a lot of the pain and suffering in this world is caused by our own distortions as oppose to what the Creator has provided.


    Quote:33.9 Questioner: Yes, I do. Then from this I will extrapolate the concept which is somewhat more difficult because as you have explained before, even fourth-density positive has the concept of defensive action, but above the fourth density the concept of defensive action is not in use. The concept of defensive action and [chuckle] offensive action are very much in use in this, our present experience.

    I am assuming that if an entity is polarized strongly enough in his thought in a positive sense defensive action is not going to be necessary for him because the opportunity to apply defensive action will never originate for him. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is unknowable. In each case, as we have said, an entity able to program experiences may choose the number and the intensity of lessons to be learned. It is possible that an extremely positively oriented entity might program for itself situations testing the ability of self to refrain from defensive action even to the point of the physical death of self or other-self. This is an intensive lesson and it is not known, shall we say, what entities have programmed. We may, if we desire, read this programming. However, this is an infringement and we choose not to do so.

    48.8 Questioner: Who shall we say supervises the determination of further incarnation needs and sets up the seniority list, shall I say, for incarnation?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is a query with two answers.

    Firstly, there are those directly under the Guardians who are responsible for the incarnation patterns of those incarnating automatically, that is, without conscious self-awareness of the process of spiritual evolution. You may call these beings angelic if you prefer. They are, shall we say, “local” or of your planetary sphere.

    The seniority of vibration is to be likened unto placing various grades of liquids in the same glass. Some will rise to the top; others will sink to the bottom. Layers and layers of entities will ensue. As harvest draws near, those filled with the most light and love will naturally, and without supervision, be in line, shall we say, for the experience of incarnation.

    When the entity becomes aware in its mind/body/spirit complex totality of the mechanism for spiritual evolution it, itself, will arrange and place those lessons and entities necessary for maximum growth and expression of polarity in the incarnative experience before the forgetting process occurs. The only disadvantage of this total free will of those senior entities choosing the manner of incarnation experiences is that some entities attempt to learn so much during one incarnative experience that the intensity of catalyst disarranges the polarized entity and the experience thus is not maximally useful as intended.

    I take away from what Ra says is that choices we make in-between lives are very different than what we want when alive. We very much have the purpose to grow and learn lessons instead of blissing out. But of course I still struggle with the types of heinous abuses that go on, and I really sympathise with the victims.

    thank you for such a well thought out response. I think this is as close to an answer as I can get. There is no justification for this decision by "God" to allow for such catalyst because that is the very nature of what it is to be me. If that makes sense. If it were possible for me to be cool with it then it wouldn't be the thing that it is. Like how Jesus said on the cross "God why have you forsaken me" and then he died. Its like that sense of being totally lost and vulnerable is the very essence of why jesus was then able to die for the sins of others as an example...before that he was not ready perhaps. so it is just not possible for me to understand and that just is. so my feelings of being very upset at God is just the way it is for me to be human and I don't think I'll ever be able to reconcile that. I dunno.
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    Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 05-26-2018, 11:25 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-27-2018, 02:16 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Highrculling - 05-27-2018, 03:39 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 03:39 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Sprout - 05-27-2018, 03:43 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Louisabell - 05-27-2018, 06:20 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 03:56 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Infinite Unity - 05-27-2018, 11:36 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Sacred Fool - 05-27-2018, 01:17 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-19-2018, 11:31 AM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Cannon - 05-28-2018, 12:30 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by flofrog - 05-28-2018, 01:01 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 04:05 PM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 05-29-2018, 03:30 AM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 05:02 PM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-21-2018, 12:32 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-21-2018, 12:37 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Minyatur - 06-21-2018, 02:46 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Diana - 06-21-2018, 04:05 PM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-21-2018, 06:22 PM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-21-2018, 05:06 PM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Patrick - 06-22-2018, 09:32 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Agua - 06-22-2018, 10:46 AM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 04-15-2021, 08:46 PM
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    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-19-2018, 11:33 AM
    RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-21-2018, 12:26 PM
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