How seriously do you take the Law of One? How has it effected you?

[rva_jeremy]

I just want to say I am sorry for my tone, I can't seem to turn it off from cold sounding sometimes and I apologize for that and any of the times I seem inconsiderate or dismissive.  I don't intend to come off so arrogant.

There is absolutely no apology needed.  I didn't see you as inconsiderate or dismissive at all.  There was no problem at all with your tone.  I can't speak for others, but I appreciate when people make their opinions clear.

I think you're using this forum well in expressing your discomfort with an aspect of the Ra contact information that you find troubling.  I find it troubling, too, which is why I've taken so much time to share with you: in trying to soothe you, I am also trying to soothe myself.  I find the spiritual evolution through the densities to be something unfathomable; it is, therefore, not without a certain sense of fear.  Fear of oblivion, fear of eternity in struggle, fear of always being subject to some becoming, never resting or being secure.

All I can say is that these fears deserve to be felt, not avoided.  In avoiding our negative feelings, we do not expurgate them, but instead only delay feeling them.  That is the one point I'd like to impress on you: that however we may feel about the Creation, there is no escape from it, from ourselves, from the Creator.  Diving in is acceptance of the conditions of our experience and faith that they have a purpose.  We cannot avoid suffering, but we can touch those tender wounds within us that are causing it and acknowledge what they have to teach.

I wish to point out I feel misunderstood, I do not mean to call the Law of One in any way evil or totally dark, I just wish to acknowledge what I have taken away from my experiences of seriously taking the Law of One.

I know, and I'm sorry for not acknowledging the appropriateness of your feelings.  I was talking privately with another member about how much I felt like I wasn't giving you the feedback that what you're feeling is totally legitimate.  I'm glad Jade did.

I think I actually do understand where you're coming from better than you might think, but maybe I'm wrong.  When you describe a fear that seems so much like the fear I feel, it's hard to keep the focus solely on you and not mix my own symptoms in.  It is precisely because I feel that I know the feeling you're pointing at -- that dread that our spiritual growth will take us through hell and pain, that this is what we have to look forward to -- that I lobby you so hard.  I am lobbying myself; I am doing exactly what I warned you against, and addressing my own catalyst much more directly than I am yours.  I apologize for that, as I really do want to help, but it feels so close to the help I need that I know of no way not to make it personal for me.

Further I am struggling greatly in understanding what is wrong with my desire to guide people away from traumatic experiences that they won't want?  Its like telling a friend it wouldn't be cool to record him trying to do a standing backflip on concrete, for the first time he's ever tried.  Only in this case I exaggerate it to be hellish emotional despair instead of a splitting headache.

But you all seem to want to tell me its okay that such things happen.  I totally agree, the wars and Death and slaughter and the vastness of it are all valid and should not be dismissed or avoided in absoluteness, as they have at their root that same Love I seek, even if it should seem horrendous.

I just think... I hope anyways...  That lessons can be learned as efficaciously in peace as in war   That we don't need to fight wars.  We don't need to kill.  We can solve problems without suffering extremely to finally desire a solution.  We don't need to let children touch the hot stove for them to learn, not always anyways.

Thank you for your graciousness, I'm sorry I haven't returned it.  There's nothing wrong with your desire in my humble opinion.  There's nothing wrong with trying to help people.  I am not trying to stop you from anything you might do that you feel would help.

However, what I'm trying to do is help you set expectations appropriately.  In a sense, I am doing just what you're doing -- trying to prevent you from encountering suffering in not seeing the fruits of your help that you expect.  Those of Ra do point out that help is best given as love and light, where we help the other person not by directing them but by giving them more love and light with which to walk their own path.  What you were describing as your desire to connect the heart insights with the intellect is part of what I think is at issue here, because it's not clear we can think our way out of these problems at all, and the capacity of the heart is first and foremost to feel, both the positive and the negative.

There's a part of helping others that involves wanting to see the other flourish, but there's another part of helping others that is a bit more selfish, in a way -- it arises from not wanting to feel the pain ourselves that arises from seeing another in pain.  Q'uo has been asked about this very topic before.  And I got the sense that, having suffered so much, part of what was motivating you was to see others not go through what you did because it would trigger the memories of what you'd gone through in the past.  I fully own that I may have been wrong about that, or rather, that I was dishing the medicine to you that I should have been taking.  Thank you for impelling me to be more honest with myself.

Let's take your experience as an example, CA: what warning do you believe you could have received that would have prevented what you perceive as greater-than-necessary suffering?