(11-18-2017, 10:28 PM)zhaich Wrote: It has affected me to the point where I just had a major argument and clash with a negatively polarized entity trying to control my body after reminding myself of this material. Ultimately it left after I brought to light its rejection of learning the ways of empathy out of cowardice.

I attempt to take it seriously. However, I work in negative environments directly connected to the vampiric draw of the STS's attempts to control the world and this has its drawbacks. Demonic entities swarm in like flies to a light as their objective is to snuff out the love and light of the Creator and anyone not programmed by the negative intelligence is fast becoming a target. This is probably why I have seen a major dropoff in aware Internet users lately.

I take it seriously and I am attacked, and often times in the past I would be fooled and drop back to negative space/time, a miserable experience. The negative are adamant on manipulating my mind in order to trap itself from the perceived fear of love which is a distorted understanding brought about by past hurts and regrets. Clearly I am seen as a major threat to their plans hence their relentless attacks. I mean, I only threaten to open them up. *shrugs*

This is all very laughable, this game. The amount of people dragged along unknowing they are manipulated by Satanic consciousness and the drive to liberate them from such internal slavery...the issue is forgetting that the STO harvest was going to be few to begin with. I'm sure many would like all to go, but this is unrealistic. Maintaining a connection with the Creator with so much evil is incredibly difficult for me to do. I am awful at defending myself against evil when I am open. Open it for too long and one becomes prone to being hurt by evil, which has happened to me too many times, and by extension I have been controlled and hurt others in the past as well. It is a deep sorrow and I wonder if I am of any use in this life anymore. Yeah, one can simply exist but this feels meaningless to me in comparison to my potential.

As a backdrop, I have been attacked since birth. Dozens of vaccinations at a young age, "special education" and psychological tests, and especially addictions that sought to escape from reality which were in fact a trap into negative space/time. So yes, I take this seriously. Few people in the west know what love really is anymore and I always sought find out what it was since I didn't feel the Creator's love out of my own cowardice in my younger years. I felt it once, but evil working through me ruined that. I was not ready for it.

After knowing the Law of One and looking back through my addictions and those who manipulated me for their own gain, I have but an endless pool of anger to draw from. What I do with it is the question.

So yes, I take it seriously. I needed a salvation from my internal hell and received it in 2004, but wasn't ready at the time. I wouldn't read the books until 10 years later. I take it seriously, but it is very hard to consciously go by as those in the negative would be attracted to stop such vortices from manifesting. This experience is full of sorrow and sadness. This reads like a terrible book and it really is, sorry about that, its how it came out.

As a side note, I cannot tell you how many times I have had telepathic thoughts lately telling me I am stupid or an idiot. I am getting fed up with that.

(11-18-2017, 11:53 PM)Aion Wrote: I believed in the Law of One long before I ever encountered the Ra Material.

(11-19-2017, 12:14 AM)Sprout Wrote: How do you tell when/if you're being attacked?
And what do they feed off, is it fear or love, or light?

(11-19-2017, 10:05 AM)zhaich Wrote:

(11-19-2017, 12:14 AM)Sprout Wrote: How do you tell when/if you're being attacked?
And what do they feed off, is it fear or love, or light?

It comes across in several ways. One of which is a strong desire to elevate the self above others with the excuse for self protection, this is the manipulation of the fear of being hurt. Another is a desire to emotionally attack those too close to the heart. And yet another are voices in the head that come from outside the self, much of which are insults to myself and whispers trying to incite my fears. This can be fear of being hurt, fear of love itself, fear of unworthiness, self hatred and so on and this is an attempt for them to control my mind and behaviors. The STS advise in absolutions, such as you are this and that, or you should do this and that to the point of sending commands.  And when they send these commands I am forced to confront them and expel them from my personal system usually with anger. The STS oftentimes lie, saying anything to get their desired effect maximized and recognizing these lies can tell one who you're dealing with. The STO of course suggest and let the questioner discover their own understanding, like a guiding hand. 
They feed off of fear and all of its offshoots, so this includes greed and lusts as well and this behavior is encouraged not just for them to feed off from, but to also let it stifle and suffocate what light and love I have within. Simultaneously they hope I turn to STS as a result. Above all else they don't want me to retain an active connection of love with the Creator. They'd rather have me follow the dictates of the powerless fear rather than consciously connect with the One. 

What I do miss is being consciously loving without having to worry about satanics attacking me and manipulating my mind and fears. However, with such a connection it turns into a rather black and white world, where at home one feels at peace with the One sending love to each other, and yet at work it is the opposite, people feeding each other's fears. It only seems black and white due to the extremities felt. I work in a job where I'm sure thousands are trying to get into with the fears of scarcity and poverty due to the economy, while simultaneously the STS who build such facilities do so to exploit its very workers energy for their own gain. It is the light in the middle of a vacuum of fear. Eventually either this fear will devour itself or the structure that set up this vacuum will fall apart as anything of negative orientation begins to fall apart upon first construction. Without the creative force of love it is bound to fall apart. 

(11-20-2017, 04:12 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I must admit to a sight distaste in that thought process, to dive right in.

I feel this distaste for one reason that has eluded me for years but now I see it a bit clearly.

The Ra Material offers extremely sensitive information of kundalini and more, magical powers, and even more, a study on the archetypal foundations of the natures of reality.  They offer things like control of thoughts and emotions.  Change of inner and outer perceptions, self creation moment by moment.

All of this information is given with a very basic warning of severe imbalance.

This is like giving a child a gun, and saying to be careful with it or bad things will happen.  The child has no clue as to the severity of what those bad things are.  He finds out the hard way by accidentally killing himself or another out of ignorant use of that powerful tool given to him.

And this is ignoring the fact Ra pretty much states that polarization leads to traumatic catalyst, with rapid polarization leading to inevitable trauma very often.

There is lacking some deep sincere warning offered, its given as a passing remark almost.

So, I would like to append our own warning to those who wish to perform the moment by moment magic of the Law of One.  It is a huge responsibility for...Us human child-gods to work with.

It is not enough to take it seriously.  There is a discipline involved that must be learned and it must be taken in deeply and made routine.  To just dive in is probably the most dangerous thing one can do, with all of their usualness of human being, the noisy mind and turbulent oceanic emotions all invite one to basically alter their consciousness and perceptions to see as easily Hell as they could see Heaven.

In fact the only point where any real warning of depth is given is when Ra tells us misuse of the archetypes can lead to splintering the personality (that thing that makes human you YOU).

I take this stuff way too seriously sometimes because in all the light of the Material, darkness shines through at points as well.  Omission of the dangers of these practices for starters.   The dangers of kundalini activation and rising kundalini.  The dangers of discovering how to change your perceptions and the many stumbling blocks that come with all of those dangers.

From people losing their minds to thinking they are losing their minds to dissociation from physical reality and delusions including believing oneself light enough to be tormented by dark beings when most people have no reason to be.

The Law of One can, and in my opinion, should start out as just a philosophy book.  Any further movements to turn it into a lifestyle should be guided by those who already have to help people, like myself, who might need more guidance than another with performing these things in a safe way that won't lead to severe imbalance.

You can't teach/learn all by yourself.  For those alienated wanderers like myself who are very alone in their physical lives, diving into living the Law of One can be very dangerous, especially to people with sensitive nervous systems, even more so the more sensitive the system as the onset of changes will be even more brutal, sudden, and inexplicable.

Otherwise, I agree with the majority of your post, I got triggered and do get triggered with this material.  It has dangerous potential, I feel some warning should be offered with it yet there isn't one.  It often makes me wonder in frustration why an highly advanced from our perspective, being giving such information would skip out on offering a few precautions or warnings as to what should be avoided and what should be aimed towards.

In many ways it almost seems like the positive word choices and thoughts by Ra had to avoid such negative portrayals, yet in a dualistic 3D reality such mentionings have a positive reason.  So why did Ra exclude such warnings beyond a remark here or there?  You'd think even one full answer offering in a way some great caution would pop up, but instead they're offered with very little emphasis.

Anyway, regardless of such things, I do agree with everything else you say, and want to emphasize that seriousness of belief is required to make anything in the Law of One appear in such a way as to be proofworthy subjectively.

(11-20-2017, 08:03 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: CA, I'm sorry my post triggered you.

For what it's worth, you and I appear to have very, very different ideas of what we would call out when characterizing this body of study.  When I think of the Law of One, I don't think of ritual magic, kundalini raising techniques, etc. right away.  Instead, I think of meditation, appreciation of the other as self, taking one's feelings seriously, etc.  So when I say "dive in", I don't mean dive into hardcore ritual magic.  I mean dive into your own life, take it seriously on its own terms, make the mechanics of your life workable from a spiritual perspective.  Use your ordinary, regular life as grist for the spiritual mill.

The basic practice Ra suggests is:

1. Know yourself.
2. Accept yourself.
3. Become the Creator.

What is in there to fear that isn't already present in you right now?  All of the things you cite strike me as technique, not the heart of the practice, and those of Ra do, in fact, warn against placing technique at the center.

Putting aside the question of whether or not the information is dangerous, I'd like to suggest that part of what growing up and being fully engaged in your life means is a willingness to assume duties involving danger.  At some point, you have to be able to handle tools like guns safely or you can't really be the kind of person we think of as an adult.  Anything rewarding carries risks, and one cannot maintain security indefinitely.  In fact, this is probably where we're butting heads: you appear to be prioritizing safety over progress on the path, and that's certainly not my approach at all.

Finally, I do not think those of Ra give much help at all to somebody who wants to get into, say, magic.  They point out that it's possible and give some of the basics, perhaps.  They don't go much further; that requires one to do one's own research.  What they spend a lot of time on is the discipline of the personality and how to think about one's experiences in terms of spiritual growth.  In fact, those things really are the prerequisites to positive applications of magic, archetypes, etc. anyway.  I don't see a lot in the contact that is dangerous on its own merits.

So to summarize, I think we have different ideas of what we think the heart of the Law of One is as well as how much dangerous information is actually conveyed.  I hope I've addressed your concerns accurately.

CA Wrote:They offer techniques that if inappropriately used can make one's life miserably hellish.

CA Wrote:Should an adept be unlucky enough to stop meditating after establishing a routine for polarization or work in consciousness, the result is like descending your vibration from heavenly levels to hellish ones, and with the added instant contrast between heaven and hell, the difference is even more vivid than it already is.

(11-21-2017, 01:35 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I wonder if Ra's social memory complex is fully aware of what their wanderers are doing. Like these forums. I wonder if they get a chuckle out of how we sometimes seem so unsure of ourselves.

Ra helped me more when I was mentally ill. When I needed it. They're good at solving mental puzzles or undoing complex energy patterns that one gets themselves stuck in.

It's weird, but in writing my book, there's a protagonist which is a 13-year-old child. He wishes to do good. But I unintentionally gave him some attributes so that he seems to be polarizing negatively. Such as trying to lead the world to peace. And that those who didn't follow him ended up in trouble that was outside of his control. He's not a monster, but being young he is inexperienced, though gaining wisdom. It's another universe/planet altogether so maybe their polarizing is different. If others didn't join his cause they were left behind to experience the end of existence. He doesn't control that, but he wants others to follow him. So is 13 a bit young to be polarizing negative? And is it polarizing negative if you're doing it in the interests of the people, and they choose to follow?

(11-21-2017, 10:51 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote:

CA Wrote:They offer techniques that if inappropriately used can make one's life miserably hellish.

Which techniques are those?  Seriously; I can't recall anything in the work that I've ever been able to make any use of that, based solely on what those of Ra have communicated, had significant danger relative to the inherent danger in incarnation to begin with.

(11-21-2017, 05:39 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: This is a fun example of how reality exists as dynamic tensions.  What's right to do? What's wrong to do? How can we tell?

(11-21-2017, 08:07 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I learned that one can use Intelligent Energy to make things change, like when I tried to transform my body (with a deal of pain) but didn't get that far.

The Ra material taught me that indigo-ray can shift probabilities, and smooth distortions. I used to be able to just feel whether one action or another caused a greater distortion.
Even to whether to start new threads or respond to current ones.

It also got me into some trouble with shifting energy patterns and having the energy keep expanding with no way to contain it.

I probably would not have realized any of this had I not come across it.

When I first heard about the Ra material, I thought it was like a piece of metal or other matter that was Ra's. But on reading through most of it once, I was hooked on it.

I still sometimes try to work with intelligent energy to shift probabilities. Like shifting to a reality where my book will do well.

(11-21-2017, 08:34 PM)Elros Wrote:

(11-21-2017, 08:07 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I learned that one can use Intelligent Energy to make things change, like when I tried to transform my body (with a deal of pain) but didn't get that far.

The Ra material taught me that indigo-ray can shift probabilities, and smooth distortions. I used to be able to just feel whether one action or another caused a greater distortion.
Even to whether to start new threads or respond to current ones.

It also got me into some trouble with shifting energy patterns and having the energy keep expanding with no way to contain it.

I probably would not have realized any of this had I not come across it.

When I first heard about the Ra material, I thought it was like a piece of metal or other matter that was Ra's. But on reading through most of it once, I was hooked on it.

I still sometimes try to work with intelligent energy to shift probabilities. Like shifting to a reality where my book will do well.

I think it might be of importance to ponder what does this do.

A concept which I strongly resonated with is that of the natural spiral flow and that of taking angles through it. To me shifting probabilities is like taking angles, and while I certainly don't claim to be without a drawing to take them at times, I also realize there's a certain attached weight to it. You can like to think of it in term of polarity where wanting to take angles may be seen as desiring to resist and control your reality, bend it to your desires. In that you fear that the people of this world are not people who will appreciate your book nor feel drawn to it, you will to be brought away from them all who only lie in potential outside your conscious awareness into what kind of people you want them to be.

You entire belief that you can shift probabilities holds on faith that there are countless realities where your book is appreciated by countless. If you believe it's there, then why not let it be and accept whatever potentials? What you try to change in some way is who the people of the world are, because you don't believe them to be people who will appreciate your work then you desire that the planet was made of different people who will feel differently about your book and be more drawn to it.

Btw, knowing a bit how you are. I'm really not saying you're doing anything bad and instead I merely attempt to say I think it's not the healthiest way to go about it nor the most peaceful.