11-21-2017, 12:52 AM
(11-20-2017, 08:03 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: CA, I'm sorry my post triggered you.
For what it's worth, you and I appear to have very, very different ideas of what we would call out when characterizing this body of study. When I think of the Law of One, I don't think of ritual magic, kundalini raising techniques, etc. right away. Instead, I think of meditation, appreciation of the other as self, taking one's feelings seriously, etc. So when I say "dive in", I don't mean dive into hardcore ritual magic. I mean dive into your own life, take it seriously on its own terms, make the mechanics of your life workable from a spiritual perspective. Use your ordinary, regular life as grist for the spiritual mill.
The basic practice Ra suggests is:
1. Know yourself.
2. Accept yourself.
3. Become the Creator.
What is in there to fear that isn't already present in you right now? All of the things you cite strike me as technique, not the heart of the practice, and those of Ra do, in fact, warn against placing technique at the center.
Putting aside the question of whether or not the information is dangerous, I'd like to suggest that part of what growing up and being fully engaged in your life means is a willingness to assume duties involving danger. At some point, you have to be able to handle tools like guns safely or you can't really be the kind of person we think of as an adult. Anything rewarding carries risks, and one cannot maintain security indefinitely. In fact, this is probably where we're butting heads: you appear to be prioritizing safety over progress on the path, and that's certainly not my approach at all.
Finally, I do not think those of Ra give much help at all to somebody who wants to get into, say, magic. They point out that it's possible and give some of the basics, perhaps. They don't go much further; that requires one to do one's own research. What they spend a lot of time on is the discipline of the personality and how to think about one's experiences in terms of spiritual growth. In fact, those things really are the prerequisites to positive applications of magic, archetypes, etc. anyway. I don't see a lot in the contact that is dangerous on its own merits.
So to summarize, I think we have different ideas of what we think the heart of the Law of One is as well as how much dangerous information is actually conveyed. I hope I've addressed your concerns accurately.
I agree with you 100% now that I better understand your viewpoint.
Please allow me to try and reconcile mine, my view is based on the experiences I garnished thanks to following the Law of One. Those experiences are extremely polarized between heavenly and hellish experiences. As such, I've devoted my study to rooting out the cause of my hellish experiences so that no one else will ever need to know that catalyst unless they should happen to come upon it regardless.
My understanding from this distorted point of study is that Ra has offered very powerful information in lieu with very deep truth. They offer techniques that if inappropriately used can make one's life miserably hellish. This concept is even mentioned in The Three Pillars of Zen. Should an adept be unlucky enough to stop meditating after establishing a routine for polarization or work in consciousness, the result is like descending your vibration from heavenly levels to hellish ones, and with the added instant contrast between heaven and hell, the difference is even more vivid than it already is.
This is an important issue to me, that makes this information able to move people right into suicide and just as with my cult commentary a while back, I will be glad to speak at length as to why it is irresponsible of any of us to ignore that reality and act like its not there.
This material makes people believe dark beings are messing with them, others have kundalini initiated in them from JUST READING the material (in my case) and others have even committed suicide after discovering that there was basically no reason to live because they took the material a certain way.
Those possibilities...Probabilities, those chances, I do not wish anyone to know that suffering.
So I speak up, and I do say, The Ra Material is dangerous, but its not so dangerous to censor it or bar people from it.
Rather it is dangerous to certain kinds of individuals, immature ones, neurally sensitive ones, mentally unstable ones. But with proper guidance by US, we the livers of this philosophy, no one needs to ever know what its like to suddenly find themselves in the belief that they are living in Hell, not Earth but lliterally Hell.
So, you're right. I have taken up a safety approach. You might be comfortable teaching a child gun control, I think that's fair enough. Ra did not teach us to control these techniques, they merely handed them to us, and your quote seems like the only emphasis provided on safety that I could tell.
As such, I think you're doing it the right way man, focusing on the point of the contact, to know ever more deeply The Truth of reality, that is Unity, Infinity, and Unconditional Love. Not magic.
Yet I see now thoughts as one might mistake the science of chemistry to be magic. Our thoughts are magic. Ra teaches us to direct this power of ours like a compass needle, to face towards love rather than seperation. But again, we are humans. Eventually our old thought patterns re-emerge and if we don't correct them, suddenly we're manifesting them.
For someone, like me, who's mind meanders the darkness, this can be devastatingly brutal to what I might end up Law of Attraction-ing into my life. In my case, the delusion that I was in Hell masquerading as a life.
That's not a fun experience, and I'd say my concerns may be small and partial compared to the majority taking away blissful realization, but one is enough, as Ra says, and I agree.
The Ra Material gave me a manifest experience of heaven AND hell. I seek to make sure no one else will need to know that hell experience.
And so, I voice my concern, but ultimately you are right Jeremy, the heart of this information is flawless and divine. It is I the individual who misused the teachings in ignorance, all I want you to know is I'll be ready to help anyone who went through what I did, so that more people can know the heart of this material as you do, and not discover a sour underbelly as I did.
You have such eloquent thoughts and expressions, I just want to say thank you for handling my... Rudeness with such kindness and consideration. Please continue as you will, I can feel the care you put into your response, and I just want you to know I really appreciate it!