06-08-2017, 07:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2017, 08:27 AM by Agua del Cielo.)
I would like to add something to this discussion:
I believe there are many misconceptions and prejudices around that!
Ayahuasca is not the sum of two chemical ingredients (DMT and MAO inhibitor), but much more.
First of all, there is a number of other chemicals involved, which seem to be overlooked completely ( for example different variations of DMT).
But the most important thing is, and i guess this can be said and understood on a spiritual forum, ayahuasca is an energetic entity, that is devoted to healing and guiding our evolution.
This is why they call it "plant teacher".
With chemicals analogues, you dont connect with the teacher plant!
You dont believe this? You think DMT is DMT?
well, did you know, thatthere are ayahuasca recipes that dont incorporate DMT?
Only the single plant (banisteriopsis caapi).
I tried it.
No DMT involved.
The difference to teas containing also DMT is, there is a lot of healing happening, but its harder to get this into your conscious awareness or understanding, but the effect is amazing.
This clearly shows that its NOT aboutthe DMT butthe entity involved.
on the benefits of a real ceremony:
a real ceremony is a magical ritual.
if done "correctly" by someone who has "real" access to the "spirit world" , powerful energies are being invoked and present that protect, help and guide the experience.
on the benefits of having a shaman with you:
obviously this is important for the "ritual" aspect as mentioned above
second, it is very beneficial to have someone present who can help you through difficult parts of the experience.
third and most important is the therapeutical aspect. Some issues CANNOT be healed alone, by design, most likely they wont even arise. For quite some experiences and/ or issues its crucial to have a human counterpart for healing (this has been covered elsewhere on the forum sufficiently i guess).
There is a lot more to say about this sacred plant teacher, i felt the aspects mentioned are most important for this discussion here!
edit:
Please bear in mimd, not everybody who calls itself a shaman is a real shaman, but i guess thats clear!
Aanother thing, the diet is an important part of the experience and it greatly enhances the experience, if you follow the diet!
Mostly 1-3 weeks of strict diet are recommended!
I believe there are many misconceptions and prejudices around that!
Ayahuasca is not the sum of two chemical ingredients (DMT and MAO inhibitor), but much more.
First of all, there is a number of other chemicals involved, which seem to be overlooked completely ( for example different variations of DMT).
But the most important thing is, and i guess this can be said and understood on a spiritual forum, ayahuasca is an energetic entity, that is devoted to healing and guiding our evolution.
This is why they call it "plant teacher".
With chemicals analogues, you dont connect with the teacher plant!
You dont believe this? You think DMT is DMT?
well, did you know, thatthere are ayahuasca recipes that dont incorporate DMT?
Only the single plant (banisteriopsis caapi).
I tried it.
No DMT involved.
The difference to teas containing also DMT is, there is a lot of healing happening, but its harder to get this into your conscious awareness or understanding, but the effect is amazing.
This clearly shows that its NOT aboutthe DMT butthe entity involved.
on the benefits of a real ceremony:
a real ceremony is a magical ritual.
if done "correctly" by someone who has "real" access to the "spirit world" , powerful energies are being invoked and present that protect, help and guide the experience.
on the benefits of having a shaman with you:
obviously this is important for the "ritual" aspect as mentioned above
second, it is very beneficial to have someone present who can help you through difficult parts of the experience.
third and most important is the therapeutical aspect. Some issues CANNOT be healed alone, by design, most likely they wont even arise. For quite some experiences and/ or issues its crucial to have a human counterpart for healing (this has been covered elsewhere on the forum sufficiently i guess).
There is a lot more to say about this sacred plant teacher, i felt the aspects mentioned are most important for this discussion here!
edit:
Please bear in mimd, not everybody who calls itself a shaman is a real shaman, but i guess thats clear!
Aanother thing, the diet is an important part of the experience and it greatly enhances the experience, if you follow the diet!
Mostly 1-3 weeks of strict diet are recommended!