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    (04-30-2017, 04:25 PM)kycahi Wrote: The prime directive for 3Ders, besides making The Choice, is to accumulate experience of other selves. Rand got plenty of that in Russia first, then in the U.S. So she might have bent over backwards urging people away from collectivism as a service to them, and didn't intend to be of STS at all. I just don't know enough details about her life.

    She definitely was a persuasive fiction writer, and I don't know whether/how she gathered followers of her ideas on selfism. Her popularity as a writer could very well have given her a following. Even now you will hear someone recommend her books.

    There are plenty of biographies of her out there from people who spent time with her, if you're interested. Aside (of course) from her official bio, none of them paint a particularly pretty picture of her as a human being. It's one thing to be anti-collectivist, but quite another thing to be so domineering that you expel long-time friends from your circle just because they contradicted you on some minor matter.

    Probably one of the most illustrative stories of just how controlling she became later in life came from when she was in a hospital in the 70s. She had just undergone surgery in one of New York's big high-rise hospitals, and was recovering when some of her friends came to visit. She was still loopy on the painkillers, and started talking about the trees outside her window. Except she was on the fifth floor and there were no trees. A couple of her friends who'd been part of the group for years pointed this out, and she excommunicated them on the spot. Even later, when she'd come down off the drugs and agreed there were no trees, she refused to see them ever again because they had dared question her perception of reality.

    (One of the stranger quirks of her philosophies is that she basically denied the fallibility of human senses. In turn, this was used as part of the basis for her claim of having solved the is-ought problem.)

    Or for that matter, she wrote an entire book devoted to the subject of why her tastes in art and music were the objectively correct tastes in art and music. I'm really not using phrases like "cult of personality" lightly here. And that even carries on to this day. The biggest thing that separates the Ayn Rand Institute - the official continuance of her work - from other Objectivist splinter groups is that the ARI declares Objectivism to be a "closed system." Ie, it consists of the writings and talks of Ayn Rand and nothing else, which can never be amended or reinterpreted or otherwise added onto. Basically, almost like holy writ.
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    Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by DynamicBri - 04-22-2017, 07:13 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Infinite Unity - 04-22-2017, 07:23 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by DynamicBri - 04-22-2017, 07:34 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by GentleReckoning - 04-24-2017, 03:28 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Infinite Unity - 04-22-2017, 07:37 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by DynamicBri - 04-22-2017, 07:48 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Infinite Unity - 04-22-2017, 07:45 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Infinite Unity - 04-22-2017, 08:04 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Glow - 04-23-2017, 10:20 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Sacred Fool - 04-23-2017, 12:15 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-24-2017, 01:16 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by BlatzAdict - 05-02-2017, 04:14 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 04-24-2017, 09:00 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-25-2017, 01:29 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by kycahi - 04-24-2017, 09:07 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by kycahi - 04-25-2017, 05:12 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-26-2017, 02:35 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Glow - 04-28-2017, 08:13 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by kycahi - 04-30-2017, 04:25 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by APeacefulWarrior - 05-02-2017, 12:59 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Infinite Unity - 05-02-2017, 09:38 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Spooner - 05-02-2017, 11:01 AM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by APeacefulWarrior - 05-02-2017, 12:34 PM
    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by Infinite Unity - 05-02-2017, 11:45 AM
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    RE: Do negative wanderers recapitulate negative philosophy in 3rd density? - by APeacefulWarrior - 05-02-2017, 01:26 PM
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