Quote:52.9 Questioner: Well, I would just include the question as to why time of harvest is selected by so many Wanderers as time for incarnation?
Ra: I am Ra. There are several reasons for incarnation during harvest. They may be divided by the terms self and other-self.

The overriding reason for the offering of these Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow in incarnative states is the possibility of aiding other-selves by the lightening of the planetary consciousness distortions and the probability of offering catalyst to other-selves which will increase the harvest.

There are two other reasons for choosing this service which have to do with the self.

The Wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher-density catalyst.

The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity or members of a societal entity can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfectly balanced. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

(04-22-2017, 07:23 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote: The highlighted part of this post, is mostly generated towards positive wanderers, and the rest of it as well.

The negative wanderer of sixth density is very rare, and just as hard as it is to find, as to explain why they return. In my personal opinion sixth density entities of the negative variety is trying to dominate unity. They return because the key to over coming unity in the sixth dimension is thought to be found in third density. Along the same lines of knowledge that opening the eighth level is a passport to the next octave of experience from within third density, not the next density but the next octave. In more focused or lower forms or reasons of coming back for a negative entity, is the potential growth outcome from third density, as well. I also believe there is a practice of fifth dimensional negatives forcing fourth dimensional negatives to wanderer, as kind of a counter to the positive influx of wanderers.

(04-22-2017, 07:13 PM)DynamicBri Wrote:

Quote:52.9 Questioner: Well, I would just include the question as to why time of harvest is selected by so many Wanderers as time for incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. There are several reasons for incarnation during harvest. They may be divided by the terms self and other-self.

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The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity or members of a societal entity can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfectly balanced. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

(04-24-2017, 09:00 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: If a negative entity teaches sts polarity, is this not a service to another and a decrease in negative polarity?

(04-25-2017, 05:12 PM)kycahi Wrote: Although I don't remember reading it in the LOO, I determined (subject to revision ) that STSers almost always start out wanting to share their knowledge with others as a favor to them, and then they get attracted to the power. Your post about Rand looks like an example of that idea.

(04-25-2017, 05:12 PM)kycahi Wrote: Although I don't remember reading it in the LOO, I determined (subject to revision ) that STSers almost always start out wanting to share their knowledge with others as a favor to them, and then they get attracted to the power. Your post about Rand looks like an example of that idea.

(04-30-2017, 04:25 PM)kycahi Wrote: The prime directive for 3Ders, besides making The Choice, is to accumulate experience of other selves. Rand got plenty of that in Russia first, then in the U.S. So she might have bent over backwards urging people away from collectivism as a service to them, and didn't intend to be of STS at all. I just don't know enough details about her life.

She definitely was a persuasive fiction writer, and I don't know whether/how she gathered followers of her ideas on selfism. Her popularity as a writer could very well have given her a following. Even now you will hear someone recommend her books.

(05-02-2017, 12:59 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote:

(04-30-2017, 04:25 PM)kycahi Wrote: The prime directive for 3Ders, besides making The Choice, is to accumulate experience of other selves. Rand got plenty of that in Russia first, then in the U.S. So she might have bent over backwards urging people away from collectivism as a service to them, and didn't intend to be of STS at all. I just don't know enough details about her life.

She definitely was a persuasive fiction writer, and I don't know whether/how she gathered followers of her ideas on selfism. Her popularity as a writer could very well have given her a following. Even now you will hear someone recommend her books.

There are plenty of biographies of her out there from people who spent time with her, if you're interested.  Aside (of course) from her official bio, none of them paint a particularly pretty picture of her as a human being.  It's one thing to be anti-collectivist, but quite another thing to be so domineering that you expel long-time friends from your circle just because they contradicted you on some minor matter.

Probably one of the most illustrative stories of just how controlling she became later in life came from when she was in a hospital in the 70s.  She had just undergone surgery in one of New York's big high-rise hospitals, and was recovering when some of her friends came to visit.  She was still loopy on the painkillers, and started talking about the trees outside her window.  Except she was on the fifth floor and there were no trees.  A couple of her friends who'd been part of the group for years pointed this out, and she excommunicated them on the spot.  Even later, when she'd come down off the drugs and agreed there were no trees, she refused to see them ever again because they had dared question her perception of reality.

(One of the stranger quirks of her philosophies is that she basically denied the fallibility of human senses.  In turn, this was used as part of the basis for her claim of having solved the is-ought problem.)

Or for that matter, she wrote an entire book devoted to the subject of why her tastes in art and music were the objectively correct tastes in art and music.  I'm really not using phrases like "cult of personality" lightly here.   And that even carries on to this day.  The biggest thing that separates the Ayn Rand Institute - the official continuance of her work - from other Objectivist splinter groups is that the ARI declares Objectivism to be a "closed system."  Ie, it consists of the writings and talks of Ayn Rand and nothing else, which can never be amended or reinterpreted or otherwise added onto.  Basically, almost like holy writ.

(05-02-2017, 11:01 AM)Spooner Wrote: Do you really think STS isn't collectivist? Ghengis Khan's mongel hordes were total collectivists. Both STS and STO culminate in social memory complexes. BOTH are collectivists just of different structures (one hierarchical and the other distributive). This is why you should not blindly follow collectivist leaders. You have to be aware of their methods.

(05-02-2017, 11:45 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Yea there collective in the regards that the strongest, use cunning and power. To collect and direct groups. There is an entropic quality of sts energy, very nicely stated by Apeacefulwarrior

The in-fighting or the tug of war like battle between wills, due to the need to absorb power is what causes entropy. So basically a battle over a scarcity. And a red ray blockage. A lot of sts probably have red ray issues.

(05-02-2017, 01:06 PM)Spooner Wrote:

(05-02-2017, 11:45 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Yea there collective in the regards that the strongest, use cunning and power. To collect and direct groups. There is an entropic quality of sts energy, very nicely stated by Apeacefulwarrior

The in-fighting or the tug of war like battle between wills, due to the need to absorb power is what causes entropy. So basically a battle over a scarcity. And a red ray blockage. A lot of sts probably have red ray issues.

On the contrary STS have to be exceptionally efficient at using Red, Orange and Yellow ray in order to bypass greenray. If they have red ray issues its only because of the sheer amount of energy they are channeling through these centers. I'm not recommending emulating this but it's important not to minimize the other side. Respect is foundational to defense.

(04-24-2017, 01:16 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: I don't see why they wouldn't; the lessons they'd be recapitulating would just be (from their point of view) lessons in self-love and\or dominating others.  It's not hard to imagine a 5D negative Wanderer benefit from a life spent as a 'great' dictator in the same basic way a 5D positive would benefit from a life as a great healer.

For that matter, while I'm very reluctant to label individual humans as positive or negative - since there's no way to see into another person's heart - I strongly believe that Ayn Rand was a high-density negative Wanderer who specifically chose to come to Earth to try to spread negative messaging.  Just about everything about her philosophies matches up with the negative\STS point of view, starting with her determination that the self\ego is the highest power and going from there.  (Even her own backstory feels like something that was 'programmed'.)

And after all, if we didn't have a few high-level negatives running around, life on Earth might start to get boring.