01-29-2017, 09:33 PM
(01-29-2017, 01:21 AM)Aion Wrote: ...
This answer helps me somewhat. Thank you, and hello again.
I find all of what is said in those quotes makes perfect sense to me. It's ultimately everything that I can use my mind to apply such imaginative scenarios to that brings me to such questions and concerns that I've provided.
Most core of all of my issues you've answered to in your post is the following two areas:
Discerning acceptance and control from each other.
Making sense of the types of catalyst that manifest.
What is it to be accepting, or controlling? Do we not control the growth of the tree by applying nutrients to it's soil and water to it's roots? Perhaps that is a very bad example, as we do not control the growth of the tree, it does that itself (whether consciously or otherwise, I am unsure of).
Similarly any examples of a parent controlling a child might be a bad example as the means of parenting offspring might require some form of control be acceptable for their own concerns.
I'm unsure if I can think up an example that isn't heavily flawed or skewed and appropriately highlights my major concerns.
Maybe I'll mention about the legal system. Is this a form of a negative societal structure? Taking control of other's resources, right up to their very life? Is this not a form of negative catalyst that seeks to allow another entity to utilize it to take control over you? Despite it's positive implications towards maintaining a peaceful society (which in my experience, it itself is not the cause of such wholly).
Does bathing the body count as controlling it's natural functions outcomes?
Does becoming conscientious and being mindful of thoughts had not a form of controlling the response to catalyst of the mind?
Then there's acceptance, what is truly accepting? Does it mean ultimately to be unattached to the catalyst incoming, to meet it and let it be, to respond only as you feel is appropriate to do so for all parties involved?
Does allowing a car battery to die a form of positive catalyst because you didn't take control and change the components of the car? Urg, that's a bad example too...
Does allowing another to drown a form of positive catalyst if you know you're unable to do anything? Is calling the authorities for help a form of controlling the situation and thus a negative outcome?
The overall ability for the misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the concepts of 'control' and 'acceptance' are so vague that all I could ever think of that ultimately defines any of these things are the 'intent' of the actions being taken. If one does not intend to control a situation despite making movements to do so, is this still negative? If one intends to allow another to be harmed and accepts the reality of the situation, is this positive?
Does stopping an armed attacker's assault count as negative intention?
Does letting an armed attacker assault you count as a form of positive intention?
Is there even a black and white in this area or have we walked into the deeper parts of the twilight zone of reality where there is no black and white, but merely shades of gray ad infinitum? Does this mean an act of both polarities ultimately rounds out to which end of the spectrum is more highlighted, the positive or negative? Is this the cause for the two steps forward one step back usual occurrence of polarizing in entities?
Is anything at this level of discussion even possible to be handed out as black or white?
When we talk of control, of acceptance, of catalyst, is any of it actually truly neutral, or positive, or negative, or is it all a mixture that must be met, processed, and diffused/assimilated?
I thank you for your answer as it gives me a lot to consider, but I just want to point out that I personally believe catalyst, while majorly neutral, does have charged sides about it. Why, when your boss attempts to ruin your life on a whim, I'd call that a wholly negative catalyst, as it serves to control the major outcome of your life at your own loss with no thought or concern given to you, and further offers the catalytic gift of further negative catalyst down the road, such as being mugged by someone while homeless, being assaulted by police for soliciting in a location just trying to stay warm and alive. Similarly, when the love of your life shows up with flowers, chocolates, and tickets to an event you really wanted, I'd see this as neutral-positive catalyst, which has the further catalytic gift of offering further catalyst later on of a potentially positive nature.
I understand that a phrase exists for coping with negative catalyst, 'things falling apart are actually things falling together'. I find this is not true for many people who's final days on Earth are spent on the streets starving, freezing, sick, and lonely. The only thing that fell together from their fallen apart life was their death certificate.
So obviously There's some things that I feel needs to be addressed.
In fact, sometimes, if I really let myself just be honest with myself, I feel like I'm here desperately trying to grasp for some kind of thought process or experience that will aid me in offering some kind of useful or worthwhile suggestion as to the design of this reality. A good big part of me feels that I'm a designer of sorts in the afterlife. Not sure if it's just of reality systems, physics, aesthetics or functions or what, but I desperately want to find a way to help make catalyst on this planet a bit more efficiently used so as to lessen the overall suffering across 3D, at least to the point where there aren't souls so lost in this density that several people have Near Death Experiences witnessing planes of depressed souls wandering aimlessly upon the plane unable to cope with the misery that manifests from their very selves and experiences they've had.
I might also add, since I was a child and made to attend catholic night school classes, and learned of the afterlife, I've had a lifelong desire nigh obsession (which goes along with my being HFA...) of the afterlife. I used to imagine a large field of flowers with a tree and a river as just one part of what the afterlife would look like, in a sense like a way-station. It's desire to be known by me has been explored in my own fictional works, and overall has been the leading factor in my life towards a pull to explore philosophies, cultures, the paranormal, but of it all I find myself so laughably ill-equipped to properly go about researching and exploring any of these things that I'm left chuckling stupidly at my self. Some days the want to know is so obsessive I contemplate if I should self-initiate a NDE, but I'm also not stupid and know doing so would probably go beyond the 'near' part of the death experience.
I really just want to better understand things so I can actually help in a way that doesn't feel futile to me. Volunteering at soup kitchens, giving food and water to the homeless on the corners of the roads, looking for jobs where I help those in need, it all feels so futile. Sure it helps one in ways greatly appreciated, but it also brings me ever closer to the great misery that I try to escape from, and it does make me lose my mind at the injustice, the backwards systems, the deliberate use and abuse of life by those with power within humanity.
It makes me mad. Sad. Upset. I do not want to see people hurting, I just don't believe they deserve it. My only exception to this, is when it is what they want. I've met homeless people who've told me right to my face, 'I'm a horrible person and deserve to suffer', and then they turn right around and help others doing better than himself at his own loss. I can accept that, but it just makes me wonder, why does such a loving person believe they have to suffer, that they're horrible? It makes me sad. I care too much.
That catalyst is as it is I now question if it is actually made purposefully to incite suffering, or if it was just a natural occurrence as to the [meta]physics of our reality that it should cause such suffering when not used.
What's more, if it were simply possible for the intuitive sense of people to be better honed to provide a better...Path Compass to direct people through their own selves.
I don't know, Aion. If you could change something to make catalyst more efficiently used and lessen the severity of misery in 3D, would you? Or would that just be seen by creation as a negative attempt to control it?
moving onward~
Minyatur (did I spell that right? What a tricky name!), your response actually served to confuse me somewhat more, but then again your energy feels especially different so all I can do is try to understand. Some of the things you suggest are actually things I've had to undo because they were already done. My energetic system, specifically at the yellow-ray, was completely shut down for a few years. My red-ray is pretty heavily damaged from long-term issues of survival, I've suffering with suicidal tendencies since I was just a child, in fact the moment I learned of an afterlife was the moment I realized I didn't really actually want to be alive, as much as I just wanted to be...Happy. I'd rather die and enjoy the afterlife than live and suffer, but life isn't that simple, I have people who love me and care about me, I have friends who rely on me for their own emotional support. To just remove myself would be more painful to them than myself I imagine, in the long run, so I try not to.
Doesn't change the fact I still try every year, when you can't control some of the faculties of your mind, it really doesn't make things any easier to cope with.
Further, there was one point in my life were everything was good, some people seem to call this a spiritual awakening but I felt like it was more than that. More than waking up, it was like discovering something that made everything else acceptable, and then I subsequently lost grip of whatever it was I had discovered, and sank back into my old patterns which beforehand were the norm, and afterwards, suddenly was just such a terrible thing to experience, like day and night only it's the same thing. Because of that I wonder about what you've said.
I do not see perfection in the way it is normally attributed, to me, something perfect must have a paradoxical imperfection about it that closes the loop, makes the full circle be had, and creates the only true thing that is perfect, im/perfection. In that way I can agree with you that reality is perfect as is, but even perfection leaves room for involvement, evolution, for tweaking the game.
Many of your examples, like mine, are generalizations and may not be best utilized by some in mindfulness, for instance, a 4D positive entity may not be balanced, but I believe it is very much conscious of its self, and in a way that consciousness is merely lacking the wisdom to realize how imbalanced it is towards love. If by unconscious you meant uninformed of the ever deeper realistic portions of reality shared with the less dense portions, then definitely I can see what you're saying.
I find it alarming that you say you believe in balance over polarity. I thought the exact same thing then one day realized there is no difference between the two. In order to polarize in any direction, a sort of balance that I can only describe as im/balance needs to be met by the entity to consistently constantly polarize. Without the imbalances and balances of the mixture of energies like Wisdom and Love or their inversions such as Logic and Control, any attempt to polarize through utilizing catalyst may merely be met with stumbling into the energies of indifference due to the inability to properly be aware or conscious of what needs be done to polarize a certain way.
For me, balance is a mechanism designed to further the efficient usage of not only catalyst, but experiences overall both within and without incarnation. Balance is my middle name, a-lack-of is my last

But seriously, your views are interesting and mimics many of mine when I first began digesting in depth the Law of One philosophy or at least the bits of it we have available to us... I just get a strong sense that you're heavily blocking yourself, possibly for the benefit of us all, as I think were you to just come full out 200% honesty, you'd probably incite great amounts of cognitive dissonance in all of us, er, I apologize, I shouldn't speak for the others, at the very least, you'd incite such in myself.
Jade, I shall reply in a separate post to you~!